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Epic Usa Game. optik vs obertasse

#1OpTiK  Jan 2 2008, 00:55 AM -
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Hi,
this is a very close Usa game between Gdi(me) and obertasse (scrin).
(Top 100 game).

After i messed up my bo it turned to an nice game with many back and forwards.

Enjoy urself. Wub and comment pls smile.gif.

(give me a good reviewer pls ^^)

Optik
#2Jamma  Jan 2 2008, 02:11 AM -
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Tagged for (trial) review. wink.gif

I'll do my best OpTiK, let me know what you think...I'll get someone else on the case if you aren't happy with it. tongue.gif

Jamma

EDIT: Okay review added below. biggrin.gif
I know it looks stupidly big again but if it was in the review section above I think it might look a bit less of an essay! Enjoy. Would welcome review feedback. smile.gif

Reviewer's Opinion
GOOD

Quick Information
13:38
-MiCro'OwNz^: PP -> Rax -> Ref -> Crane -> Ref/WF -> Ref/WF (Crane sell) -> PP -> Ref
obertasse: PP -> Rax -> Ref -> WF -> Ref -> PP -> Ref -> Ref -> PP -> Nerve -> Crane


Match Overview
A close matchup on Small Town USA with -MiCro'OwNz^ as GDI in blue and obertasse in pink playing Scrin. Both players spider to opposite expansions and build up a decent mix of units. Battles rage across the town until eventually both players begin to attack each other's bases and it turns into a race to destroy their opponents main bases and expansions. And they both do...but wait - they both missed power plants! In the race to destroy the final power plants...who will be the victor?

-MiCro'OwNz^
You played generally well and deserved the victory. Your build order was a little weird but it payed off and gave you a decent economy and two war factories to counter anything your opponent could throw at you early game. You did well to stay on the attack and kept the pressure on him throughout most of the game. In particular you used some nice distraction with the predators at his expansion, then attacking his main base harvesters and capturing his drone ship. You lost a few units unnecesarily at times, but came out with the stronger army due to the constant pressure and nice use of shockwave artillery. You destroyed your opponent's base quicker than he did yours as you microed your units well through his base. Although if he had done the same it could have been a different ending - if a match does turn into a base rape race keep in mind the points below. Well played, but it was closer than it needed to be. Next time if you handle the situation a little better, you should come out clearly on top.
    Tips for improvement
  • I realise you were often attacking in multiple places..but there were times where you unnecessarily lost units due to not paying attention to them and getting focused on another attack - in particular you lost a few predators and a juggernaut to desintigrators in this way. Try to flick between all your battles every few seconds so that you don't miss anything.
  • Only sell buildings if you are in desperate need of the power or money. You ended up having to rebuild your command post to make an airfield and rebuild a barracks in your expansion to make some more engineers after having previously sold them both.
  • On your first main attack to your opponent's expansion you focused your forces on the storm column which caused your predators to move round the refinery in a line and get trounced by the devastators and also caused some of your vehicles to expose their rears to obertasse's tripods and shock troopers. It would have been wiser to hold back and deal with the immediate threat of the tripods and shock troopers first.
  • When you capture a construction yard, don't immediately sell it. Your opponent will no longer be able to place down anti infantry towers, so consider placing a barracks and watchtower just in case you can grab a few more structures and set him at a further disadavantage.
  • More air units and anti air would have been useful. If your opponent is going for tripods and devastators, orcas and firehawks work really well. Also, after you reaching tier 3 you should have built a few more mammoths instead of predators. Although they are slow and masses of them do not stack well, they are more cost effective than predators and in particular are useful against scrin as they have decent anti air.
  • If you see the match is beginning to turn into a base rape race try to build a drone ship or an expansion vehicle and deploy it in the corner of the map to save you some time while your opponent searches for it. And do not sell buildings!! A few extra units in your base is not going to stop his whole army but having the extra buildings will buy you some more time. If you have the bigger army and can get back in time, also consider retreating to your base first to destroy your opponent's.
obertasse
You also played pretty well and managed to hold off your opponent for a long time. Throughout the match you weren't agressive enough and you didn't really take advantage of his lack of units early game and this set you back a bit but you came back well and managed to counter his mid game attacks with devourers. You did well in putting the storm column behind a refinery at your expansion an using this in combination with devastators to create a strong defence there as well. Things were looking pretty even but in the later battles you just got out -MiCroed! Your opponents use of support powers was a lot better than yours and you lost too many units to his shockwave artillery. In the race at the end, he kept his units moving through your base, destroying all your structures as quickly as he could, but you left your units standing there doing nothing at times - if you had put them on agressive stance and split them up to destroy his last structures it could have had a different outcome. A close game and well played for getting so close to beating your top 10 opponent - keep in mind the tips below and next time you two meet anything could happen!
    Tips for Improvement
  • The advantage of your BO over your opponent's was that you could get out vehicles earlier, yet you did not use this advantage. When you saw he was eco booming more than you, you should have made at least 5 seekers before your harvesters, and gone to harass his. This way you could have maybe destroyed a harvester or at least stopped him harvesting for a little while. Instead you went much too late with 3 seekers and got them killed without doing any damage.
  • If involved in a tank battle, try to place your lightning spike behind enemy vehicles. You could have done this in the battle at your expansion - then your seekers and photon/spike would have gotten a rear damage bonus against the predators meaning you could have inflicted some more damage.
  • When you hear the shockwave artillery noise and see the beacon, run away! If you don't know what the noise sounds like watch the replay and you will hear it both times it was used. If you can't run away you can always use stasis field or phase field to counter it. Phase field could have saved you 4 tripods at your main base and you could have then used them to squash a few predators as well.
  • You did not scout well throughout the match - you had no idea what was in his expansion. He could have been keeping a couple of airfields full of orcas and firehawks and you would have been unable to counter because of your lack of anti air. On this note, consider bringing more shock troopers with your tripods and devastators, and upgrading them. While tripods and devastators are a great combination, shock troopers provide much needed anti air and are very effective anti tank as well.
  • You built quite a lot of storm columns unnecessarily and they did not get close to paying for their cost - these are expensive so only build them when you need to. The money would have been more wisely spent on units. Considering your opponents army mainly consisted of predator and mammoth tanks, an investment in a signal transmitter and a few pacs would have been a good choice instead.
  • If you see the match is beginning to turn into a base rape race try to build a drone ship or an expansion vehicle and deploy it in the corner of the map to save you some time while your opponent searches for it. Also, as scrin you can use the repair drones support power which lasts for one minute - the game thinks of them as a building and your opponent cannot destroy them - this could have given you the vital extra time.
This post has been edited by Jamma: Jan 3 2008, 16:54 PM
#3MdK.  Jan 2 2008, 03:31 AM -
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Average for me. Epic in the title is a bit misleading smile.gif
#4Liang Hu BBB  Jan 2 2008, 11:39 AM -
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GG

Btw Optik are you TaddelOwnz?
#5LunaBella  Jan 2 2008, 15:04 PM -
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lol nice base trading tongue.gif laugh.gif

Optip you got really lucky those devastator warships were not on aggresive stance tongue.gif

you would have lost if they were wink.gif
This post has been edited by LunaBella: Jan 2 2008, 15:05 PM
#6OpTiK  Jan 2 2008, 15:40 PM -
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lol, i know i was lucky but he was also lucky that i didnt see his power plant at first.
Im no Gdi player btw so this little mitakes can happen.

I even would upload it here if i had lost, so its not so important for me.

@ Liang, nope im not Taddelownz. The only accs i got r optik microownz [T2D] Time2Die (2on2 account).
#7OptiCal  Jan 2 2008, 15:57 PM -
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lol nice base trading tongue.gif laugh.gif

Optip you got really lucky those devastator warships were not on aggresive stance tongue.gif

you would have lost if they were wink.gif


QFT
#8OpTiK  Jan 2 2008, 20:58 PM -
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Waiting for Review smile.gif.

> more Comments pls.
#9LunaBella  Jan 2 2008, 23:19 PM -
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lol nice base trading tongue.gif laugh.gif

Optip you got really lucky those devastator warships were not on aggresive stance tongue.gif

you would have lost if they were wink.gif


QFT

lol i know lying is not in my nature tongue.gif laugh.gif
#10Claudb  Jan 2 2008, 23:48 PM -
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[font=Arial]Optik i think u were lucky at the end that ur base wasnt destroyed. Because if scrin had played alittle better he could have wiped your buildings out and you wouldnt even notice.

Next time be more careful with ur mcv ;D
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