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Mordor vs Rohan GRAND FINAL

#21Valor`  Dec 18 2013, 09:18 AM -
[name='StiWie`' date='Today, 04:47 AM' post='9595164'][quote]
#highplayingstandardsoftoday[/quote]

Dont talk shit if you dont know, I back to play BfME 2 weeks ago, and I barely played 10 1vs1 games, so this prubs nothing.

About game, I wouldnt care to lose after such a fail start, but the way he played was just pussy considering he was host and 80% of his pp's were from camping catas aiming RA's wacko.gif[/quote]

It's not about you or this game specifically, it's just that by reading some peoples (fearys) statements you'd think that today's players are some kind of gods at this game. What I've seen so far is not amazing at all though.

And yeah he did play like a pussy.

Edit: too stupid to quote lol
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@amorality: lool, rank 6 Lego? Mordor being unable to win without catapults? You're a funny guy.
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#22Amorality  Dec 18 2013, 11:44 AM -
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I think you do not know how to play
So can play 1-1 Mordor, Rohan and you beat me without catapults
About catapults, I mean the level of players pro
#23Valor`  Dec 18 2013, 15:25 PM -
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I think you do not know how to play
So can play 1-1 Mordor, Rohan and you beat me without catapults
About catapults, I mean the level of players pro


Lolol this is gold. So this is what GR has come to, random people with an english rivaling cent trying to teach you.

Honestly though, I've played with and against Mordors who were probably ten times better than you are. And I can guarentee you they didn't need to camp every single game. Yes, sometimes you have to camp, but especially onhost you can win w/o it.
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#24Amorality  Dec 18 2013, 17:27 PM -
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10 times? Well I'll come find you in Gr and play
Tongue gab all can.
#25Fishy  Dec 18 2013, 17:54 PM -
Valor - Im not talking about your argument with Amorality here but I noticed that in past few weeks you are just acting like complete douche...
Well done. The former best players must be so proud that it is you defending them.

Seriously you are trying so hard to prove that back at your days players were so much better and now the community is just bunch off losers that would lose vs former pros in 50kB, that nobody can believe it.

IMHO if those you are deffending so much look at discussions they must feel awkward.
#26StiWie`  Dec 18 2013, 18:14 PM -
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Dude thats just stupid. You dont need to camp like a charming individual like you did after such an awful start from my part. And yes, 5 troll, 1 drummer & 2-3 combos with fire would win that easy since I cashfloated to 4k and had nothing but Theo, Eowyn, 3 horses nonupgraded and Legolas (Lv1). If you didnt delete pit to spam catas like you did, your orcs could take back map while you attack my base, while get money for WK or Naz or w.e, that was an easy that game that you convert into a pussy game..
#27Amorality  Dec 18 2013, 18:22 PM -
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Maybe you're right. But it was cw and I do not want to risk it because if I lost trolls and combos I would have lost
#28sueffkopp  Dec 18 2013, 18:44 PM -
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a win is a win
#29suturbs  Jan 2 2014, 11:48 AM -
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Very good game amorality played with perception & goodcon-trolling, stiwie played with experience & map domination.

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The worst decision I thought was cash floating to 4.2k and then buying legolas and eowyn.
I guess he didnt make "hero choice" very early. Since he didnt know that he could have lots of money for sure, he didnt need fires early.

(Or simply becasuse, as he says, "he wasnt heaten up yet, after come back", that he might have skipped the moment to build Archery..).

Second reason: players expect much from elves but they are not very useful vs 3 trolls (trolls of good "scene micro" palyers) even if there is no drum next to them. Elves weren't able to provide a very clean environment for rohirrim in this game.

So, It might be the "worst decision" but it is not "that bad" for me; it was not exactly a "plan"; was a realtime (so call) a decision (I call alternating);

When he saw his cash gone too much meanwhile elves did not work much, he did the correct thing, at that moment IMO.

Along with all these, amorality knows(or does) something more than majority of the pro players at some certain points (doesnt necessarily mean he's the best, actually there is no such thing; they are mostly tittles).

* * *

If stiwie made a choice like making 4 or more peasants, and using hobbit on the frontier lines, he also made a choice as "late horses"; in this case one cannot rationally criticize both the "late horses" and so called "'unuseful' peasant attacks" (Also, the aim is not only taking mills down, right?). So, better choosing one of them to blame :I

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I think you do not know how to play
So can play 1-1 Mordor, Rohan and you beat me without catapults
About catapults, I mean the level of players pro

Most mordor players have no very good "scene micro", amorality did it, thats why catas worked for him very well. And real or better alternative to combos IMO.

And mordor players knows orcs, combos are feeders like SHIT against fol(both in terms of elven points or ranking heros, and even not useful for getting mills vs pro players) even if they have teir own usefulness. IF theo had rank 4, by the help of legolas or just horses, IT WAS GG. Because base rushes would then make the favor for rohan, not mordor. (& prob aod before the devil).

When rohan dominates like that, "dont even make orcs" is only a pro idea for who knows how to use <trol + treb> well. (some leaves trebs auto attack but he nicely targetted units along with well troll usage).

If timing and map domianiton was gained by mordor(which is some sort of "impossible"), combos could also work, but it still not a must or should. AND WHY are players blaming camping (I still consider this naming is nonsense, everybody can have camps. You expect them let you in easy?! what d be the point then!). Its an usual option and legitimate, there is noting to say. [Camping can really be observed in FFA by gondor IMO; sw, nothing else but trebs, gtw meanwhile others are busy eachother! not at XvsX's]

* * *

Along with all these, all commentators here telling some "parts" of the truth. I mean, there are some comments made, forget their wordings, points; but they litle or more have "motivations, senses that are correct".

GG.
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#30Doler7  Mar 10 2014, 15:24 PM -
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Very good game amorality played with perception & goodcon-trolling, stiwie played with experience & map domination.

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The worst decision I thought was cash floating to 4.2k and then buying legolas and eowyn.
I guess he didnt make "hero choice" very early. Since he didnt know that he could have lots of money for sure, he didnt need fires early.

(Or simply becasuse, as he says, "he wasnt heaten up yet, after come back", that he might have skipped the moment to build Archery..).

Second reason: players expect much from elves but they are not very useful vs 3 trolls (trolls of good "scene micro" palyers) even if there is no drum next to them. Elves weren't able to provide a very clean environment for rohirrim in this game.

So, It might be the "worst decision" but it is not "that bad" for me; it was not exactly a "plan"; was a realtime (so call) a decision (I call alternating);

When he saw his cash gone too much meanwhile elves did not work much, he did the correct thing, at that moment IMO.

Along with all these, amorality knows(or does) something more than majority of the pro players at some certain points (doesnt necessarily mean he's the best, actually there is no such thing; they are mostly tittles).

* * *

If stiwie made a choice like making 4 or more peasants, and using hobbit on the frontier lines, he also made a choice as "late horses"; in this case one cannot rationally criticize both the "late horses" and so called "'unuseful' peasant attacks" (Also, the aim is not only taking mills down, right?). So, better choosing one of them to blame :I

QUOTE
I think you do not know how to play
So can play 1-1 Mordor, Rohan and you beat me without catapults
About catapults, I mean the level of players pro

Most mordor players have no very good "scene micro", amorality did it, thats why catas worked for him very well. And real or better alternative to combos IMO.

And mordor players knows orcs, combos are feeders like SHIT against fol(both in terms of elven points or ranking heros, and even not useful for getting mills vs pro players) even if they have teir own usefulness. IF theo had rank 4, by the help of legolas or just horses, IT WAS GG. Because base rushes would then make the favor for rohan, not mordor. (& prob aod before the devil).

When rohan dominates like that, "dont even make orcs" is only a pro idea for who knows how to use <trol + treb> well. (some leaves trebs auto attack but he nicely targetted units along with well troll usage).

If timing and map domianiton was gained by mordor(which is some sort of "impossible"), combos could also work, but it still not a must or should. AND WHY are players blaming camping (I still consider this naming is nonsense, everybody can have camps. You expect them let you in easy?! what d be the point then!). Its an usual option and legitimate, there is noting to say. [Camping can really be observed in FFA by gondor IMO; sw, nothing else but trebs, gtw meanwhile others are busy eachother! not at XvsX's]

* * *

Along with all these, all commentators here telling some "parts" of the truth. I mean, there are some comments made, forget their wordings, points; but they litle or more have "motivations, senses that are correct".

GG.


I agree with you, 10/10 would read again
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