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2 gondor vs Mor/Isen QM gg

#1y0shi  Jun 12 2015, 14:05 PM -
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Great Qm we had a week or 2 ago cant remember. But we had a good game vs orange and pino. Shows great harassment and constant pressure on the fod team all game, especially since we were offhost.
All comments good/bad are welcome, enjoy.

Ps: orange said he had a bad game so if you are gonna hate then hate on me tongue.gif.
#2Umi^T  Jun 16 2015, 15:22 PM -
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Watching it atm, can some1 tell me if the strategy that yoshi and oats went normal?

One gondor makes 2/3 horse no upgrades > Gandalf, and the other 2 horses >Fara> upgrades>gandalf?

Or did you decide to go no ups because you got 2 pp for Gandalf fast? What about one goes fara then horses instead of horses then fara? Also what about statue rushing gandalf?
#3Felixanius  Jun 16 2015, 15:45 PM -

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Watching it atm, can some1 tell me if the strategy that yoshi and oats went normal?

One gondor makes 2/3 horse no upgrades > Gandalf, and the other 2 horses >Fara> upgrades>gandalf?

Or did you decide to go no ups because you got 2 pp for Gandalf fast? What about one goes fara then horses instead of horses then fara? Also what about statue rushing gandalf?


Usually in this mu you go both horses full upgraded then Gandalfs or elvs if you get them fast. Sometimes you see 1 going fast Fara/Boro and combos if both pick land but that often fails.
Statue rushing is no good idea, because this matchup will go to lategame and you need your bs on lvl 3 asap to replace horses/Gandi.

What u can do though is one Gon goes horse with upgrades and the other horses with fast Gandi..
#4y0shi  Jun 16 2015, 15:48 PM -
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Watching it atm, can some1 tell me if the strategy that yoshi and oats went normal?

One gondor makes 2/3 horse no upgrades > Gandalf, and the other 2 horses >Fara> upgrades>gandalf?

Or did you decide to go no ups because you got 2 pp for Gandalf fast? What about one goes fara then horses instead of horses then fara? Also what about statue rushing gandalf?


Usually in this mu you go both horses full upgraded then Gandalfs or elvs if you get them fast. Sometimes you see 1 going fast Fara/Boro and combos if both pick land but that often fails.
Statue rushing is no good idea, because this matchup will go to lategame and you need your bs on lvl 3 asap to replace horses/Gandi.

What u can do though is one Gon goes horse with upgrades and the other horses with fast Gandi..

Ye pretty much sums it up, and ye I went fast gtw as I was confident I would get him out fast enough and it worked out. But usually in this mu one should go for ups like felix said and other fast gtw imo, atleast one has to get gtw fast.
#5Umi^T  Jun 16 2015, 16:26 PM -
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Thanks guys, yeah combos vs Mordor usually fail unless great start.

Also, sorry but can you answer the question about if it's good for one gondor to go straight to horses, or can he make faramir first then start making horses?
#6Unikorn  Jun 16 2015, 16:30 PM -
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Lurtz makes fara pretty useless in this mu, you can just creep the trolls with horses (take the first one right when the first two come out, ally lures and you kill). He's really not worth the cost.
#7Umi^T  Jun 16 2015, 16:56 PM -
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Thanks I was just wondering because I thought fara would kinda force isen to make lurtz and then isen cant spam pikes at gondors farms. Thanks for clarifying.
#8Felixanius  Jun 16 2015, 19:00 PM -

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Well your thought is kinda right actually. Isen should normally go for fast pikes here and no Lurtz, so if he sees Fara he will go Lurtz earlier which helps you and your mate because less pikes on the map. Still the 1200 are too much for that and delay your horses
#9SquatsnOats  Jun 16 2015, 19:39 PM -
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what do you think about both 2 horse then 2 fara for easy lurt/troll kills?
#10Ternate_89  Jun 17 2015, 16:35 PM -
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oats noob you only need horses gandalf, fara is a waste of money vs decent players, pike with upgrades kill him, early lurtz counter & pike with chant/eye aswell, 2 fara can be annoying tho but once there's enough troll on the map they are useless (decent players wont send 1 troll careless if 2 fara on the map)
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