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2v2 Awesome game vs Limes must watch!!

#1BigDDesireN  Mar 21 2014, 02:22 AM -
Really good game
#2Murder-  Mar 21 2014, 09:43 AM -
Yea this was a really good watch! Recommend to watch this game!

Some points of critique tho:

Diamond:
-Pretty bad unit mixing, Pala/rockvee combo>triple WF bro.
-Units werent at spots they were suppose to be
-Very late SnD while being under almost no pressure till midgame.
-Good Burton.
-Good pressure on unsafe.

Would rate your performance prolly lowest out of anyone in this match.

Domberman:
-Micro was off at times.
-Good pressure.

Not much to say about you was decent play.

Krew:
-As it's been all month, you make really retarded macro and strategy decisions. You floated so much early. Most frustrating to watch.
-Coulda decided the game early on with your 5k float with a mass gat th. Failed to do so.
-Good micro.
-No helping allie's unsafe as usual from you lately. Pretty bad.

Your terrible early game and failing to decide the game early was frustrating to watch. You made up for it late game by being the most dominant force though. Solid micro throughout the game, made Diamond pay for lack of unit mixing with a huge spam.

DesireN:
-Amazing lotus usage.
-Best micro from all 4 in this game.
-Not a fan of your fast prop, pretty slow.
-On 1 supply all game, still did pretty good with such little income.

Pretty impressive performance with so few resources. Remind me of the old DesireN. Didn't need a economical advantage to win games.

7,5/10. Was a good watch, entertaining back and forth and in the end it was pretty close.
This post has been edited by Murder-: Mar 21 2014, 09:48 AM
#3krew  Mar 21 2014, 10:25 AM -
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spending more money on gat/th would have made us lose. It was best that I do triple WF BM/GAT spam. My 5k allowed me to do it btw, its really not bad floating for a short period of time if spamming gat/th would only increase their K/D count...
#4BigDDesireN  Mar 21 2014, 10:45 AM -
Thanks for review murder!

Would've been tough for massive gath, since I was on 1 supply and couldn't pressure china too much, he sent a lot of gats to help his ally
#5Murder-  Mar 21 2014, 10:58 AM -
No it wasnt. Did you look at diamonds base at this point(EARLY GAME)? Even with gat help from Dom that 5k float used into a gat th would have destroyed anything. Unless you failed to micro properly and do not aim gats. But this would give justin enough time to get a edge on his side, if you failed. Sure your K/D would have been less good. But is the game about finishing your opponent ASAP, or getting a godlike K/D?

Good game, nonetheless. But really frustrating to watch you macro lately, Justin knows what I mean. tongue.gif
This post has been edited by Murder-: Mar 21 2014, 11:03 AM
#6Diamond-  Mar 21 2014, 16:40 PM -
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I wanted to already quit in that game very early, because my intention strategy-wise was completely different from how the game evolved afterwards. I agree, and told krew, that this game is full of mistakes and not really good micro, but he did not realise that.

Only thing which was really fun though was how we managed to survive and made such a long game. Performance though... was pretty bad, especially by me and Dom.

The right way to go in that game for the top team was only one: rush very hard on bottom right, since I went an all-in bo.

If you ask me, I would rate this 5/10, not more, because of so many mistakes and slow gameplay by everyone.
This post has been edited by _Rob: Mar 21 2014, 17:00 PM
#7meany  Mar 21 2014, 17:00 PM -
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A top entertaining game which I believe deserves to be in the hall of fame.
A great teamwork between both teams, entertaining and very close.

Krew:
In my opinion krew did great in this game, except not sending his first gatt to the unsafe which would prevented the flamer, and most likely win the game sooner, but since usa was also on 1 supply it evened up.
I liked the bm+ths+gatts combo a strong unit mixing, not easy to hold off gatts and palas, but you did great, I believed you made the right decisions, not sure whether gatt th would work. you made it campy a bit, and if you would try to attack I believe you'd lose.
few nukes would have helped in my opinion, you had the money, USA had late stragety center and they would hard for them to couter it.
A strong micro till late game, besides not gaining your main supply for a long time which you could.

Desiren:
Late money early on, a good decision going to a fast prop imo, probably surprised dom. I didn't like the bms you send straight to bunker, you should have moved and gained more time.
Overall good micro, and good unit uses especially lotus.
a nicely done considering you were low on money for most parts of the game.

Dom:
Good performance,not easy to send gatts and yet to control ur units over the other side of the map.
I believe you could have used your last ovie better, by going on to krew base, while mds defend ur base, and snipers seeks lotus.
I believe at start you could have overcome desiren with a unit mixing together with mds from diamond, but you sent gatts to diamond, so your build oders weren't coordinated. I guess you didnt want to sacrafice him:)

Diamond:
Lack of unit mixing probably cost you guys the game. You had no pressure at all which means you could have maybe dropped to keep them busy.
you had a late stragety center even thought you floated about 7k.
maybe you should have try to camp a bit, and let china come to you.
You lost too many units in process to kill china.
A great burton uses, a great barracks near your china mate. probably slowed desiren down.
A good pressure on desiren unsafe supply, made him low on money for most parts.

I give this game overall a 8/10.
This post has been edited by meany: Mar 21 2014, 17:08 PM
#8BigDDesireN  Mar 21 2014, 19:45 PM -
Awesome review meany!!

Well diamond, most times when theres a good matchup with good players in a game your initial strategy is not going to work just the way you want it to, otherwise youd never lose or ever be in a good game.

Also every game ever posted has "a lot" of mistakes. Like for example, Krew floated a bit... But when hes getting hit my a mixture of Palis, MD's and Gats, and he had to concentrate on Microing, then yea it costed him to float a bit. But it wasn't just a silly noob mistake, it was definatly at least 50% due to your strong teamwork
#9krew  Mar 21 2014, 22:33 PM -
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No it wasnt. Did you look at diamonds base at this point(EARLY GAME)? Even with gat help from Dom that 5k float used into a gat th would have destroyed anything. Unless you failed to micro properly and do not aim gats. But this would give justin enough time to get a edge on his side, if you failed. Sure your K/D would have been less good. But is the game about finishing your opponent ASAP, or getting a godlike K/D?

Good game, nonetheless. But really frustrating to watch you macro lately, Justin knows what I mean. tongue.gif

It would not have won us the game. I can be sure of that. if I spent 5 k on more gat/th, it would leave me with no money to prepare for a strong china/usa unit mix. pala/gat/bm is nasty imo.
#10Diamond-  Mar 22 2014, 00:16 AM -
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Ok I rewatched the game another time and I have to correct myself. Mistakes were there, though especially only from me. Overall the game was better then I first described.

I rate it 6, maybe 6.5 now, that seems more legitimate for me.
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