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# 1Tiepe252 Jun 22 2016, 18:12 PM
HI ALL

BIKE, tell me how to ownz GDI when u r playing with BH.
ANyone have good replay to watch ?
Im confident in all other match up but that one no. It is pretty hard. I think GDI ownz BH in large map due to that sh it of HH. With them, u can control the map so ezily and they r so powerfull.

THX

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# 2Ekko^ Jun 22 2016, 18:14 PM
QUOTE(Tiepe252 @ Jun 22 2016, 18:12 PM) *

HI ALL

BIKE, tell me how to ownz GDI when u r playing with BH.
ANyone have good replay to watch ?
Im confident in all other match up but that one no. It is pretty hard. I think GDI ownz BH in large map due to that sh it of HH. With them, u can control the map so ezily and they r so powerfull.

THX

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# 3ToxicShock Jun 22 2016, 18:44 PM
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# 4Thanatos Jun 22 2016, 18:48 PM
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# 5PoKeMoM Jun 22 2016, 18:56 PM
Scout and make mantis'.

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# 6Zypherbullet Jun 22 2016, 19:16 PM
Well Tiepe, Panda made an excellent guide on the Black Hand Mantis. It's basically an unstealthed stealth tank on steroids, especially with Tiberium Core missiles. It shoots two volleys and I believe they have individual targeters (although I could be wrong on that one). There's quite no kill like overkill biggrin.gif.

Click this link to learn more laugh.gif.

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# 7Ekko^ Jun 22 2016, 19:29 PM
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Well Tiepe, Panda made an excellent guide on the Black Hand Mantis. It's basically an unstealthed stealth tank on steroids,

But only shooting air ^^

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# 8Zypherbullet Jun 22 2016, 22:31 PM
We're talking HammerHeads after all biggrin.gif. Its only other purpose is being a glorified lawnmower.

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# 9BootyWarrior Jun 23 2016, 06:42 AM
inf+flametanks+mantis or inf bike/buggy switches into clicks

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# 10Tiepe252 Jun 23 2016, 16:15 PM
ok thx wooki I ll try more flame tank and mantis.

But i find mantis a bit slow to counter HH.

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# 11stateoftheunion Jun 23 2016, 21:48 PM
Noobs.

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# 12Tiepe252 Jun 23 2016, 23:58 PM
Donkey.

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# 13SpAcE Jun 24 2016, 00:46 AM
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Donkey².



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# 14-ichor- Jun 25 2016, 10:10 AM
QUOTE(Tiepe252 @ Jun 23 2016, 16:15 PM) *

ok thx wooki I ll try more flame tank and mantis.

But i find mantis a bit slow to counter HH.


Mantis' aren't that of a good choice unless you upgrade them to tib-core (although it depends on how much air units you are actually facing). Just make sure you have your Matnis on aggressive stance as there's a nasty fire-delay bug on it.

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# 15RRcabal Jun 25 2016, 12:13 PM
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Mantis' aren't that of a good choice unless you upgrade them to tib-core (although it depends on how much air units you are actually facing). Just make sure you have your Matnis on aggressive stance as there's a nasty fire-delay bug on it.

Mantis are deadly, even without tib core, picture a stealth tank x2, 1 rocket from a mantis is more powerful then 2 shots from a stealth tank without tib core, good mid game until vs anything air, makes more sense to build then than Sam turrets. smile.gif

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# 16TheWankBank Jun 25 2016, 13:31 PM
You have to be aggressive with black hand, all GDI can do is spam and build units, then streamroll tho your base, so if you are extremely aggressive early game and base pushing early game, you might win, Black Hand will kill GDI within 5 minutes if you use them right.

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# 17Zypherbullet Jun 25 2016, 14:19 PM
QUOTE(OneCabal^ @ Jun 25 2016, 14:13 PM) *

Mantis are deadly, even without tib core, picture a stealth tank x2, 1 rocket from a mantis is more powerful then 2 shots from a stealth tank without tib core, good mid game until vs anything air, makes more sense to build then than Sam turrets. smile.gif

According to my calculated stats in the aforementioned article, the Mantis is only slightly better than the Stealth Tank, roughly 10% based on damage output per second. Care to enlighten me on your source? biggrin.gif

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# 18TheWankBank Jun 25 2016, 14:40 PM
since mantis only attacks air, obviously it's better than the stealth tank at killing air.

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# 19Zypherbullet Jun 25 2016, 15:03 PM
QUOTE(TheWankBank @ Jun 25 2016, 16:40 PM) *

since mantis only attacks air, obviously it's better than the stealth tank at killing air.

It is, about 10% better. But don't be fooled, Stealth Tanks are beasts too when it comes to shooting upwards.

On that note, I do wonder whether the mantis is actually better since it overkills most any aircraft, save Ceramic Armor birds and PACs. Of course, they are cheaper, available at tier 2 and resist mind control so that's a plus smile.gif.

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# 20TheWankBank Jun 25 2016, 15:25 PM
QUOTE(Zypherbullet @ Jun 25 2016, 19:03 PM) *

It is, about 10% better. But don't be fooled, Stealth Tanks are beasts too when it comes to shooting upwards.

On that note, I do wonder whether the mantis is actually better since it overkills most any aircraft, save Ceramic Armor birds and PACs. Of course, they are cheaper, available at tier 2 and resist mind control so that's a plus smile.gif.


Traveler Pacs are really good with them tho, with that speed, even if all those little fighters are destroyed, they can run away faster and maybe make it alive.

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