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Banner Carriers Research & Upgrade

How often do you research the Banner Carriers upgrade and apply it to your units?
35.00% (7)
Often.
65.00% (13)
Seldom.
Do you find the Banner Carriers upgrade useful for its price?
50.00% (10)
Yes.
50.00% (10)
No.

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# 1Excelsior Oct 16 2016, 02:29 AM
I'm not entirely sure what you guys generally think of this upgrade, and therefore, I'd like to elicit some information from you. If possible, post your motivations.

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# 2brabox Oct 16 2016, 22:01 PM
Exp overhaul will affect this.

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# 3Excelsior Oct 16 2016, 22:03 PM
Though I don't think it'll affect it in such a way that it would change the status quo.

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# 4brabox Oct 16 2016, 22:14 PM
QUOTE(Excelsior @ Oct 16 2016, 23:03 PM) *

Though I don't think it'll affect it in such a way that it would change the status quo.

For 100 you'll get black orcs with bloodthirsty and 25 extra health. For 150 you'll have 100 HP extra for snow and hill trolls etc.
Maybe it won't change immediately, but people draw conclusions pretty quickly when they notice there's no disadvantage at all anymore for leveling your units.

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# 5Excelsior Oct 16 2016, 22:58 PM
QUOTE(brabox @ Oct 16 2016, 23:14 PM) *

For 100 you'll get black orcs with bloodthirsty and 25 extra health. For 150 you'll have 100 HP extra for snow and hill trolls etc.
Maybe it won't change immediately, but people draw conclusions pretty quickly when they notice there's no disadvantage at all anymore for leveling your units.

True. I think units such as Snow Trolls deserve the bigger bonus. They are expensive, you've got to get what you paid for.

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# 6Lazarus° Oct 17 2016, 16:46 PM
Banners are really useful in 2.02, especially for Mordor, Angmar and MotW. You can revive almost dead units, get access to special abilities and mobile healing for very low price.

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# 7Excelsior Oct 17 2016, 17:03 PM
It's useful but still too pricey. There's a lot of potential for this upgrade but it should cost 100 as it does for Mordor and Gobs.

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# 8Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 02:42 AM
All Banners Carrier personal upgrade costs will be set to 100. So that means all factions will now share the same price.

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# 9SeñorEcthelion Oct 22 2016, 03:00 AM
sounds gay for cavalry. but right, cavalry is not that important here. just a stronger rush unit.
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# 10Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(SeñorEcthelion @ Oct 22 2016, 04:00 AM) *

sounds gay for cavalry. but right, cavalry is not that important here. just a stronger rush unit.
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Exactly, OP for 1.08 cavalry seeing that they're mega armoured battle tanks (I'm envious). I think this change will integrate well into the patch.

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# 11SeñorEcthelion Oct 22 2016, 03:07 AM
QUOTE(Excelsior @ Oct 22 2016, 00:02 AM) *

Exactly, OP for 1.08 cavalry seeing that they're mega armoured battle tanks (I'm envious). I think this change will integrate well into the patch.

nah, bfme2 1.05-forward rivendell lancer looks as bad like the rotwk one. (probably rotwk one is stronger due 12 unit horde)


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# 12Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 03:12 AM
QUOTE(SeñorEcthelion @ Oct 22 2016, 04:07 AM) *

nah, bfme2 1.05-forward rivendell lancer looks as bad like the rotwk one. (probably rotwk one is stronger due 12 unit horde)

I think Rivendell Lancers are relatively the same in terms of strength and durability. They did cost 450 at some point. Interesting fact. Also, FYI, they definitely come in a battalion of 10 (as they do in BFME 2). 12 would be glorious, but nah.

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# 13SeñorEcthelion Oct 22 2016, 03:27 AM
QUOTE(Excelsior @ Oct 22 2016, 00:12 AM) *

I think Rivendell Lancers are relatively the same in terms of strength and durability. They did cost 450 at some point. Interesting fact. Also, FYI, they definitely come in a battalion of 10 (as they do in BFME 2). 12 would be glorious, but nah.

I thought all cavalry hordes were standarized to 12 units on rotwk (except cow riders)

The only really COOL thing bfme2 1.05 left for rivendell lancer, is that they gain a speed bonus on level 2. and knowing they share same speed than rohirrims, they become the faster cavalry-horde in the game biggrin.gif. and, when upgraded with heavy armor they don't just gain double armor, they also gain another 30% armor bonus. So cool, this is why i like 1.05/1.06 systems. (it's a pitty that extra armor bonus was removed on bfme2BT2DC)

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# 14Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 07:54 AM
QUOTE(SeñorEcthelion @ Oct 22 2016, 04:27 AM) *

I thought all cavalry hordes were standarized to 12 units on rotwk (except cow riders)

The only really COOL thing bfme2 1.05 left for rivendell lancer, is that they gain a speed bonus on level 2. and knowing they share same speed than rohirrims, they become the faster cavalry-horde in the game biggrin.gif. and, when upgraded with heavy armor they don't just gain double armor, they also gain another 30% armor bonus. So cool, this is why i like 1.05/1.06 systems. (it's a pitty that extra armor bonus was removed on bfme2BT2DC)

You must be thinking of the elite archer battalions. They are recruited in a group of 12 (except for Mirkwood Archers).

Ah yes, I remember that speed boost. I always liked that. It give them that edge. Hang on, so with the Heavy Armour upgrade, they gained double amour plus 30%? eyebrow.gif

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# 15Megrim Oct 22 2016, 10:39 AM
I think there is missing an importamt answer in first question. "Sometimes" or sth like that. I think many people would vote for that instead of the other answers.

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# 16Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 10:48 AM
QUOTE(Megrim @ Oct 22 2016, 11:39 AM) *

I think there is missing an importamt answer in first question. "Sometimes" or sth like that. I think many people would vote for that instead of the other answers.

I wanted a more absolute answer so I left it out in this poll this time.

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# 17Megrim Oct 22 2016, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(Excelsior @ Oct 22 2016, 10:48 AM) *

I wanted a more absolute answer so I left it out in this poll this time.

You corrupt like politician. #revolution

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# 18Excelsior Oct 22 2016, 10:55 AM
QUOTE(Megrim @ Oct 22 2016, 11:50 AM) *

You corrupt like politician. #revolution

Pay me large sums of money discreetly and I shall rig the poll. ph34r.gif

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