Company of Heroes

CoH - Home of the politely challenged?

Do you think some players' attitude ruin your fun playing online?
52.54% (186)
Yes, I am annoyed by the behavior of some players
47.46% (168)
No, I do not care about this

Total Votes: 354
Guests cannot vote 
Reply to this topic Start new topic
# 1Dr.Desastro Nov 1 2009, 20:30 PM
Hello out there and well met. I am not very new to the community, although I do not play often. And I also do not really consider myself a part of it. Why? Simple.
Example 1:
Start an account and try to join a game. In most cases you will get thrown out or notice that the other players on your team just leave when you are level 4 or less. Or you CAN play, but then only as cannonfodder for players boosting their own rank with easy pickings.
Example 2:
You have finally joined a game and start playing. As soon as thing get ugly your own team"mates" start bawing at you because you are just a "n00b" and ruin the game etc. and simply disconnect, leaving you alone out there. Well hello, there MIGHT be people, who cannot afford to play this game the whole day and NOT be so top-notch as others. Of course I watch replays, read strategy guides but that alone does not help. I have no problems with losing a game, but I have problems with being cursed because of playing the game. I know my gameplay sucks in comparison to others, but I do not need comments like "You suck" or "Quit playing this game". So it might seem there happens to be an "elite" caste of players who think they own this game - and there should be no n00bs allowed.
Example 3:
You watch a replay and read the ingame-chat. L33t-speak sucks...it sucks hard. I am a grown-up im my 30s and reading this kind of trash makes my footnails curl. Especially when used to brag around or insult the opponents. And also you might see weird behavior like losing a game and stating it only happened because the opponent bored the player writing this nonsense. And even funnier admitting defeat but wanting to let the other guy concede the game. Looks like no brains and no honor to me.
Happenes not in every replay but in a fair share.
Example 4:
Enter the chat and read a bit. It won't take 2 minutes until you read something rassistic, nazi-talk (besides very strange names) or just trolling. You might get the impression that there are many idiots present constantly.

So...where are the nice guys around? Players who encourage people to play this game because it is fun. Players helping new players. People being polite. Patient people. People who talk in full sentences that do not offend anyone and make sense?
Anyway, I am repelled currently.
CoH is a great game, but playing online really is spoiled for me because of the above. Anyone feeling likewise?
Group Icon

Posts: 48

+
# 2CNB Nov 1 2009, 20:41 PM
Play automatch. Don't spend any time in the chat. Problem solved.
Group Icon

Posts: 691

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 312azor Nov 1 2009, 20:49 PM
Welcome to the internet?
Group Icon

Posts: 12,889

Clan: EPIC

Game: StarCraft 2

+
# 4SayNoToStim Nov 1 2009, 20:49 PM
IPB Image

This post has been edited by SayNoToStim: Nov 1 2009, 20:50 PM
Group Icon

Posts: 4,894

Clan: EPIC

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 5MasterM0K Nov 1 2009, 21:03 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Desastro @ Nov 1 2009, 13:30 PM) *

Hello out there and well met. I am not very new to the community, although I do not play often. And I also do not really consider myself a part of it. Why? Simple.
Example 1:
Start an account and try to join a game. In most cases you will get thrown out or notice that the other players on your team just leave when you are level 4 or less. Or you CAN play, but then only as cannonfodder for players boosting their own rank with easy pickings.
Example 2:
You have finally joined a game and start playing. As soon as thing get ugly your own team"mates" start bawing at you because you are just a "n00b" and ruin the game etc. and simply disconnect, leaving you alone out there. Well hello, there MIGHT be people, who cannot afford to play this game the whole day and NOT be so top-notch as others. Of course I watch replays, read strategy guides but that alone does not help. I have no problems with losing a game, but I have problems with being cursed because of playing the game. I know my gameplay sucks in comparison to others, but I do not need comments like "You suck" or "Quit playing this game". So it might seem there happens to be an "elite" caste of players who think they own this game - and there should be no n00bs allowed.
Example 3:
You watch a replay and read the ingame-chat. L33t-speak sucks...it sucks hard. I am a grown-up im my 30s and reading this kind of trash makes my footnails curl. Especially when used to brag around or insult the opponents. And also you might see weird behavior like losing a game and stating it only happened because the opponent bored the player writing this nonsense. And even funnier admitting defeat but wanting to let the other guy concede the game. Looks like no brains and no honor to me.
Happenes not in every replay but in a fair share.
Example 4:
Enter the chat and read a bit. It won't take 2 minutes until you read something rassistic, nazi-talk (besides very strange names) or just trolling. You might get the impression that there are many idiots present constantly.

So...where are the nice guys around? Players who encourage people to play this game because it is fun. Players helping new players. People being polite. Patient people. People who talk in full sentences that do not offend anyone and make sense?
Anyway, I am repelled currently.
CoH is a great game, but playing online really is spoiled for me because of the above. Anyone feeling likewise?


Welcome to the Internetz.

These are the following solutions or answers to your problems in my own opinion:

1. As said before, go play automatch. Initially, you'll get creamed as the game has a stiff learning curve. If automatch isn't your thing, go find an actual noob server, being a game with people is barely 50-50 win-lose ratio or less. Or make your own, just make sure the people in them are real noobs (like said before, barely OK stats or crappy stats, people with 0 games might be smurfs).

2. Like it or not, there's gonna be people that will always troll. Especially as this game is really hard to play, someone is gonna compelain on you or someone else's skill. Just ignore them if they're not giving any constructive criticism. Automatch or arranged game, it really boils to this point. It's like road rage tbh. Just pay attention to your own gameplay. Don't judge others and they won't judge you. If they do judge you, ignore. Just play.

3. Most of the time, people online don't have time to write an essay sadly. So expect such slang and jargon. As long as you can read it within one or two readings, its fine [ie, get thre (get there), u cap that falg (you capture that flag)], as it only requires you to acquaint to the settings. If the dialogue is ridiculously impossible to read like 0/\/\F6, then yes it is stupid and unnecessary. On losing, people are always find an excuse to explain their shortcomings. There is a phenomenon called "smurf's honor," but that only applies among seasoned players who play with hidden newbie accounts. If you're a true newbie, relax and play the game. If you win, its yours to reap the reward if you earn it.

4.Most of the chat is full of nonsense. From nazis to armchair professionals, don't take it seriously.
Group Icon

Posts: 347

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 6chains Nov 1 2009, 21:04 PM
QUOTE(SayNoToStim @ Nov 1 2009, 22:49 PM) *

IPB Image


Nice pic smile.gif
Group Icon

Posts: 688

Clan: Blackstone Division

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 7Selentic Nov 1 2009, 21:08 PM
Go play any of the halo games on xbox live!

You'll be surprised!

Scratch that, go play any game on xbox live.
Group Icon

Posts: 244

Clan: This Is Kinderparty

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 8y0urkill3r Nov 1 2009, 21:14 PM
QUOTE(MasterM0K @ Nov 1 2009, 22:03 PM) *

Welcome to the Internetz.

These are the following solutions or answers to your problems in my own opinion:

1. As said before, go play automatch. Initially, you'll get creamed as the game has a stiff learning curve. If automatch isn't your thing, go find an actual noob server, being a game with people is barely 50-50 win-lose ratio or less. Or make your own, just make sure the people in them are real noobs (like said before, barely OK stats or crappy stats, people with 0 games might be smurfs).

2. Like it or not, there's gonna be people that will always troll. Especially as this game is really hard to play, someone is gonna compelain on you or someone else's skill. Just ignore them if they're not giving any constructive criticism. Automatch or arranged game, it really boils to this point. It's like road rage tbh. Just pay attention to your own gameplay. Don't judge others and they won't judge you. If they do judge you, ignore. Just play.

3. Most of the time, people online don't have time to write an essay sadly. So expect such slang and jargon. As long as you can read it within one or two readings, its fine [ie, get thre (get there), u cap that falg (you capture that flag)], as it only requires you to acquaint to the settings. If the dialogue is ridiculously impossible to read like 0/\/\F6, then yes it is stupid and unnecessary. On losing, people are always find an excuse to explain their shortcomings. There is a phenomenon called "smurf's honor," but that only applies among seasoned players who play with hidden newbie accounts. If you're a true newbie, relax and play the game. If you win, its yours to reap the reward if you earn it.

4.Most of the chat is full of nonsense. From nazis to armchair professionals, don't take it seriously.


+1 Agreed.
Just dont pay any attention to such rude idiots. Try take such phenomena lightly and maybe laugh with them. laugh with their stupidity and go on.

QUOTE(SayNoToStim @ Nov 1 2009, 21:49 PM) *

IPB Image


Nice theory/pic stim laugh.gif
Group Icon

Posts: 455

Clan: Reign of Madness

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 9162389 Nov 1 2009, 22:04 PM
If you actually try to engage in a serious debate while in the chat you will get very frustrated. Sometimes when I am waiting for automatch to connect I like to send out a statement like "Man, people who want to ban abortion sure are stupid" and then my game connects so I leave chat knowing that I just started a hornets nest of idiots who are trying to seriously disagree with me, and I am not even there anymore.
Group Icon

Posts: 1,230

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 10nin3 Nov 1 2009, 22:23 PM
Ever since I started to ignore ppl on chat (i have 480+) i cant see those things you are talking about.
CAPS LOCK = ignore
spam = ignore
nub talk = ignore
racist = ignore

to log in takes a bit longer.
Group Icon

Posts: 2,189

Clan: ArX

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 11nothingsubtle Nov 1 2009, 23:30 PM
The ignore function very quickly makes the chat bearable... not that there is any real reason to be in chat, except to check your friends-list. The only thing that upsets me is having to play an automatch against someone who is rude.

If I start the match by saying "GL, HF" and get "suck my dick" or "haha GG" back right away it really burns me up... which I know is exactly what they want.
Group Icon

Posts: 15

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 12Dr.Desastro Nov 1 2009, 23:38 PM
Well, I am not so naive to think, everything is nice and tidy on the internet - i happen to be in chatrooms from time to time so I have seen my share of bad stuff. My main concern is the attitude, some players show. This game was made to provide fun to an adult community (in my country you must be grown up to buy it).
But from nicknames, behavior and speech level one might think you encounter 13-14 year-old kids with same bad manners like a harbour laborer.
Some players are just arrogant and ill-mannered. I mean: this is a kind of E-Sports, isn't it? But where is the sportsmanship?
L33t-speak might be o.k. to relay short messages in-game. No fuss about that. But when you get stuff in game from your opponent and he wants to talk with you or upset you - well, I think this does not belong into a game.
It is o.k. for me to be beaten - comes with the game and hopefully I learn from my mistakes.
Group Icon

Posts: 48

+
# 13ISSIGuderian Nov 2 2009, 00:47 AM
QUOTE(SayNoToStim @ Nov 2 2009, 04:49 AM) *

IPB Image


Win
Group Icon

Posts: 1,873

Clan: RUKA

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 14TheGoon Nov 2 2009, 01:42 AM
QUOTE(nin3 @ Nov 1 2009, 23:23 PM) *

Ever since I started to ignore ppl on chat (i have 480+) i cant see those things you are talking about.
CAPS LOCK = ignore
spam = ignore
nub talk = ignore
racist = ignore

to log in takes a bit longer.


+1 to this
Group Icon

Posts: 729

Clan: Stomach Battalion

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 15TheGoon Nov 2 2009, 01:50 AM
QUOTE(Dr.Desastro @ Nov 2 2009, 00:38 AM) *


Some players are just arrogant and ill-mannered. I mean: this is a kind of E-Sports[u], isn't it? But where is the sportsmanship?



Urgh how I hate that term, to me it's just gaming pure and simple.

One thing I do if I'm getting abuse ingame is just tell them to stop being a nob, you'dd be surprised how often it does the trick. If that doesn't work simply ignore, or get out of the game if your not enjoying it, it's your free time, use it for your enjoyment!

Group Icon

Posts: 729

Clan: Stomach Battalion

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 16StrongumDog Nov 2 2009, 01:51 AM
It doesn't ruin the game for me but it does get annoying... Especially in game chat that's just really offensive... ie trying to put you off. They're easy to beat I find as they're obviously spending more time typing horrible bile than actually playing the game...

You come across more of this at the lower ranks - say 1-7 for some reason... you rarely see it after that... That said, I only ever play 1v1 automatch...
Group Icon

Posts: 62

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 17SexehSeacow Nov 2 2009, 02:59 AM
Ignored (360)
Group Icon

Posts: 1,500

Clan: Vanilla Heroes

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 18Zjoekov Nov 2 2009, 07:55 AM
I am still honestly amazed at the amount of people who behave like idiots or whatever you wanna call them. Most of the time I dont care about people calling me names etc. in game, actually I tend to laugh at them. Although imagining how their lives look like make me truly a little bit sad. Yeah I'm the sensitive type biggrin.gif

A few days ago something truly epic happened, which is closely related to this topic!

1. I smurf as wehr and get matched against some smurf on WT. After ~5 minutes the guy walks into my über defensive line of 2 mg's, 2 volks and 2 pios. I think I didnt even hit FTFL yet, the next attack I did though tongue.gif Result: the guy is angry. 'LEARN TO P{LAY U %NOOBH' things like that.

Nothing special right? Well now comes the thing, the guy apparantly remakes his account, cause I get to match him again biggrin.gif
Not once, not twice, but another 3 times! 2 of them again on WT haha. I've never seen such a rage. While I was playing someone else he was whispering 10 minutes long at me! 10 minutes while I did not reply, truly epic in terms of sad people. I laughed about it.
Group Icon

Posts: 398

Clan: Reign of Madness

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 19SgtBulldog Nov 2 2009, 10:46 AM
Yes, rude players generally suck, but occasionally they are also funny.

It's much worse, though, with teammates who are actively trying to ruin your game when they don't have it their way. Like sending all their forces back to base and then go afk.
Group Icon

Posts: 4,939

Game: Company of Heroes

+
# 20SexehSeacow Nov 2 2009, 13:01 PM
Beat this guy pretty easily with about 6 rifle squads. He proceeded to spam me for the next 25 min on different accounts.

QUOTE(Rage)
00:00:01 [Whisper] ytry: seems u did nto understand YOU AER A SHI T THAT MEANS I DONT CARE UR IGNORE BIG IDIOT
00:00:01 [Whisper] ytry: seems u did nto understand YOU AER A SHI T THAT MEANS I DONT CARE UR IGNORE BIG IDIOT
00:00:05 [Whisper] ytry: U ARE A SHI T
00:00:08 [Whisper] ytry: U ARE A NOOB
00:00:19 [All] Eetanam: glhf
00:00:22 [All] LetsFightingLove: You too
00:00:41 [All] Eetanam: gaaah!
00:00:44 [All] Eetanam: this guy is spamming me
00:00:55 [Whisper] fdfd: stop think in ur illusions u are kinda GENIUS for YOUR SHITT PLAY NO CARE UR IGNORE BIG IDIOT
00:01:01 [Whisper] fdfd: IM BETTER THAN YOU
00:01:02 [All] LetsFightingLove: :{
00:01:07 [Whisper] fdfd: YOU ARE A SHI T
00:01:41 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: U ARE A SHI T AND U PROVED IT NOOB
00:01:47 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: NO think u win PU SS
00:01:52 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: LOL
00:02:10 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: U NOOB think in ur illusions you are good? "i ll ignore you"? HAHAHAHAHAHAH
00:02:19 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: Seems u did not read good noob
00:02:27 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: YOU ARE AS H I TSPAMMER NO SKILL
00:02:47 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: 7 SQAUDS AND U THINK U ARE GOOD? LMAO
00:02:53 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: AT YOYURSEFL NOOB
00:02:59 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: SPAMM AND NO SKILL
00:03:11 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: Hahahahaha
00:03:42 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: Seems u did not udnerstand the game and U THIONK TELL PEOPLE BETTER THAN YOU, "i iognore you"? YOU ARE NOTHING
00:03:51 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: learn the game
00:04:45 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: YOU typical SHITT IDIOT THINK in ur ILLUSIONS people care your ignore??? Stop think people are KIDS like you
00:04:51 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: READ BETTEER
00:04:58 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: YOU ARE HERE THE ONLY KID SHI T
00:05:06 [Whisper] dfdfdfdf: come back whne u learn some skills
00:06:23 [Whisper] Menilmontant: YOU ARE A SH IT THINKING U ARE GOOD TYPICAL NOOB
00:06:35 [Whisper] Menilmontant: IN UR DREAMS
00:07:35 [Whisper] Menilmontant: u are little SH IT INBUTE OF YOURSELD FOR NOTHING
00:07:47 [Whisper] Menilmontant: see HOW YOU ARE A SHI T SKILESS SPAMMER AND KNOCK I OFFFF$
00:09:00 [Whisper] Menilmontant: "im done kill noobs"? IN UR ILLUSIONS THOUGHTS NOOB
00:09:10 [Whisper] Menilmontant: U ARE **** AND U PROVED IT
00:09:25 [Whisper] Menilmontant: Stop think tell "im done kill noobs" u are the NOOB
00:09:42 [Whisper] Menilmontant: I KICKED YOUR A SSS ALL MICRO PLAY YOU NOOB NEED SPAMM
00:10:08 [Whisper] Menilmontant: no think tell "u lose" to people higher level and skill than you noob
00:11:10 [Whisper] Menilmontant: check HOW U ARE SHITT SPAMMER NO SKILL in the replay noob
00:11:28 [Whisper] Menilmontant: No think tell people" u learn how to counter" WHEN YOU ARE YOU NEED TO LEARN PROPER SKILS
00:11:33 [Whisper] Menilmontant: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
00:11:41 [Whisper] Menilmontant: YOU ARE A SHI T AND U THINK LIE PEOPLE?
00:11:58 [Whisper] Menilmontant: 7 squads AND ANY SKILL
00:12:21 [Whisper] Menilmontant: ROFL "im done play noobs" SAYS THE NOOB
00:12:37 [Whisper] Menilmontant: now seems U STFU NOOB*
00:12:41 [Whisper] Menilmontant: LMAO
00:12:48 [Whisper] Menilmontant: Keep on stfu
00:13:41 [Whisper] Menilmontant: i kicked ur a sss already and i will again
00:13:53 [Whisper] Menilmontant: u seems did noty understand U NOOB
00:14:28 [Whisper] Menilmontant: u nargue people for winong a game and u telk about "grow up"? TALK IT FOR YOURSELF
00:15:01 [Whisper] Menilmontant: i leave you now alone, i ll no longer deal with you noob
00:20:10 [All] Eetanam: !!!!!!
00:20:13 [All] LetsFightingLove: x}
00:21:53 [Whisper] Menilmontant: keep on THINKING alone u are genius noob
00:22:23 [Whisper] Menilmontant: U SUCK spamm SKILLESS NOOB
00:22:39 [Whisper] Menilmontant: HAHAHAHAH 7 squads and u try to excuse it? LMAO
00:23:02 [Whisper] Menilmontant: Cheap play NO SKILL
00:23:08 [Whisper] Menilmontant: YES U ARE SO GOOD
00:23:24 [Whisper] Menilmontant: in ur ILLUSIONS THOUGHTS
00:23:55 [Whisper] Menilmontant: little noob narcissssss INBUTE OF YOURSELF U WILL LOSE AGAIN AND AGAIN
00:25:18 [Whisper] Menilmontant: iv just beated a real level 13, no think u noob impress on me" lok at my wher stats" HAHAHAHAH
00:25:38 [Whisper] Menilmontant: spammmmmmmm 7 Squads
00:37:04 [Whisper] FoACrazyChris: nice beating razer btw
00:37:09 [Whisper] FoACrazyChris: 12azor, w.e
00:44:48 [All] LetsFightingLove: gg
00:44:49 [All] Eetanam: gg


He also severly misquoted me :<

Almost all high levelled players in this game are mannered, though. :]

This post has been edited by SexehSeacow: Nov 2 2009, 13:03 PM
Group Icon

Posts: 1,500

Clan: Vanilla Heroes

Game: Company of Heroes

+
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)