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# 1Interloper Oct 15 2013, 11:06 AM
Does anyone know if the the bulletins for the grenadiers and Stugs work for assault grens and Stug Es? My gut tells me no, but I am curious if anyone truly knows.

Thanks.

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# 2Katitof Oct 15 2013, 11:16 AM
No, because they are completely different units.
No bulletin affects new units.

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# 3Interloper Oct 15 2013, 12:24 PM
Thought so, thanks!

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# 4rofltehcat Oct 15 2013, 13:36 PM
I read something posted by one of the stats guys about the Assault Grenadiers actually receiving the buffs because their infantry type (or something like that) is Grenadier for both of them.
I'd need to look it up myself to be sure, though.

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# 5Funky Ducky Oct 15 2013, 15:21 PM
I believe they apply to assault grens because they are the same unit according to the game, but I believe that the Stugs aren't considered the same unit so the bulletins don't apply.

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# 6Nuclear Arbitor Oct 15 2013, 18:29 PM
but grens and pgrens are different. interesting.

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# 7rofltehcat Oct 15 2013, 19:28 PM
Ok, looked it up:
Armor penetration Stug: Both get it (one of the E's unit types is "stug" and the bulletin targets the unit type)
Faster Veterancy Stug: Only the normal Stug 3 gets it (the bulletin targets the Stug 3 squad and the E has another squad type)

The Grenadier bulletins target the "grenadiers" unit type, which is shared by Assault Grenadiers.

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# 8stonethecrow01 Oct 15 2013, 21:34 PM
Thanx rofl, interesting stuff

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# 9Nuclear Arbitor Oct 16 2013, 00:32 AM
QUOTE(rofltehcat @ Oct 15 2013, 10:28 AM) *

Ok, looked it up:
Armor penetration Stug: Both get it (one of the E's unit types is "stug" and the bulletin targets the unit type)
Faster Veterancy Stug: Only the normal Stug 3 gets it (the bulletin targets the Stug 3 squad and the E has another squad type)

The Grenadier bulletins target the "grenadiers" unit type, which is shared by Assault Grenadiers.

but not pgrens, right?

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# 10Funky Ducky Oct 16 2013, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(Nuclear Arbitor @ Oct 15 2013, 18:32 PM) *

but not pgrens, right?

Has to specify pgrens.

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# 11rofltehcat Oct 16 2013, 07:14 AM
Panzer Grenadiers don't have the "grenadiers" unit type, they have their own "panzer_grenadiers" unit type. So they aren't improved by Grenadier bulletins.

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# 12Moon_Hoplite Oct 19 2013, 03:04 AM
How about the rotation + reload bulletins for stug E?

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# 13Interloper Oct 19 2013, 06:29 AM
Slightly off topic but, do the pv4 bulletins affect the pv4 command tank?

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# 14rofltehcat Oct 19 2013, 13:20 PM
Panzer 4 penetration: Yes, both have the unit type "panzer", which the bulletin aims at. Because of the unit type I also checked the Tiger and Panther but those do NOT have that unit type.
Panzer 4 faster veterancy: From what I read from the game files, it also seems to buff the command tank.

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# 15Interloper Oct 19 2013, 13:33 PM
Very good to know. Could come in handy if one is to play with doctrines with the Command Tank and do a heavy build order of Panzer IVs. Maybe Blitz or Festung Armor Docs. Festung seems more feasible because the PAK43 will provide you with reliable AT against the Heavier Soviet Tanks.

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