Dawn of War 2

Now ill prefice this by saying I have not been playing nearly as much as I was in 1.5.

Everytime I do decide to get a game (I play almost team games strictly) that every team has an Eldar player and if they are decent then my team doesnt seem to have much of a chance. The eldar will typically win most of thier engagements early on and get an edge and then just team up and stomp. It seems whatever the eldar puts on the field they are at an advantage over almost anything that me and my ork partner can field.

Kind of at a loss not enjoying what I am being subjected too lately.

Seems so, 1v1-wise orks and Eldar are way on top.

Where did you get that idea? I mean eldar only have the best basic infantry unit in game, the best early melee unit in game, the best supression weapon in game, t1 snipers, the best apc in game etc. Well, i guess all the eldar whining paid off finally, they have been slowly buffed, patch by patch and now they have reached a point where they are hands down (in the current metagame) the best army in game. Oh and all of a sudden, according to all the eldar players, the game is perfectly balanced! Oh and eldar are in no way OP, it would be ludicrous to think that, right?

Absolutely agree, playing them is a massively fun stomp fest.

I'd say best Tier 1+2 ranged anti-inf unit; GU
Best snipers, which also come in tier 1; Rangers
I think the shuri plat is good but not as scalable as lootaz or HBDevs and not as mobile or annoying as a BSWB.
Banshees, the best tier 1/2 melee unit.
Falcon best tier 2 vehicle and amazing scaling into tier 3;
Wraithlord, still best walker in the game, scales better than the others unless you're thinking of a suicide run.
Most cost effective AV; BL, costs no power, I know noobs decry this thing but it is simply amazingly good.
WS only really have trouble vs SM, even then if you put them into a 3 GU ranger build they simply pile on even more focus fire, rapes evrything else though.
FP really, really, good if you dont use it like a pred.
Avatar, ok hes too expenisve and can be raped easy, but who cares, every other unit is AWESOME.

This post has been edited by SOLAR1S: Nov 5 2009, 17:10 PM

The thread title should be changed in my opinion. It should write:

"NOOBDAR required for any comp?"

I jest, I jest.

Oh please. The avatar is still not the best so relic should really do something about that, then maybe eldar can be considered balanced.

And people say whining is a waste of time, HA!

Dux if you call people who ask for balance and a fair fight crying, what do we call what you are doing?

Yes you are absolutely required to play eldar to win. In fact if you dont play eldar the game automatically counts any such attempt as a loss for you and your team.

Heh, not absolutely but it sure as hell eases things up if you play a ridiculously overpowered race.
Sure its still possible to beat eldar i on 1 with crap like SM, especially if you are god himself, or alendore which is the same thing.

Oh, ... a further SM-whine thread was needed. congratulations, hehe

No other way about it. How else are you going to fight those overpowered eldar fellows ?

No kidding. The SM vs Eldar matchup is unbalanced(disclaimer: I play both now!), but surely you can do better than duke it out on the forums.

EDIT: Would the usual suspects agree to creating a general thread for mourning the death of SM as a faction so you can post your stupid shit in one place, instead of having it spill into every single thread?

This post has been edited by Lamantine: Nov 6 2009, 00:51 AM

For many moons, the same could be said of SM in team games, and every match was a countdown to see who could reach critical mass of tacs first.

This isn't to say "you had your turn, and now it's time for the eldar fans", but simply to point out that balance whining is futile, they won't get it right. Look at CoH.

By all means continue to make suggestions, but the best hope of a balanced game is in community mods, not the seesaw efforts of what anyone watching the preview vids for 1.5 could see is a hopelessly incompetent balance team.

Dunno, look at all the eldar shits whining and whining, it produced results in noob friendly eldar race that are basically the new nids now.

Imo whining is the one and only thing that has ever affected relic "balancing" from the very start.

Really, how are Eldar the new nids? Maybe the new Nids against SM, but that's it. Guardians may be the best T1 units, but they have been for several patches. Besides Rangers, the only really significant change to Eldar is the buffed Farseer. Just treat her as an Eldar Apoth.

This post has been edited by hellic: Nov 6 2009, 03:48 AM

you realise that banchees are tougher than orks, right? Do you know how counter-fluffy that is? Orks are almost as tough as fucking SPACE MARINES in fluff.

Eldar need to do more damage, but die when something looks at them funny. In their current incarnation, they are space marines dressed up to be elves.

So your problem is with how Eldar should be, not how the current balance is? Why did you even reply to this thread?

Also, vanilla Shees don't win against WAAGHed vanilla Sluggas. Even though they cost more. And they are not SM dressed up as elves. You don't lose individual Tac/ASM/Dev units to ranged non-sniper fire. Shees and Guardians die quickly to ranged fire.

This post has been edited by hellic: Nov 6 2009, 05:32 AM

If they win and they are not SM they are obviously OP, what so hard to understand there ? And if they loose those noobdar need to l2p, besides space marines always win fluff says so so what's the problem ?

Lol, but so fucking true! Its seems SMs players dream on about such SM race.