So there has been a lot of talk about the factions and maps at the moment. I wanted to open up this poll to discuss both of them in the tournament scenes.
Black hand is no doubt the most over played faction in the game and the match ups are not exactly fun to watch. We all know that players can use Black Hand effectively but what about the other 8 factions? Please take a look at the poll above and post your own ideas about the faction selections below.
With the maps we always see the same maps being played all the time. It would be nice to see some diversity which is why i have listed some options in the polls.
Please discuss your opinions below as its your comments that will decide the rulings for all future Gamereplays tournaments in regards to maps/factions.
This post has been edited by phantom9399: Aug 19 2016, 14:17 PM
I liked Balls of Steel his idea. Pick 5 factions -> select 1 of them as your starter faction. Loser picks map > winner picks faction > loser picks faction.
Like the occasional vanilla only tournament as well.
And at the end of the day, these are all themed tournaments. For the tournament host his choosing. With theme being the keyword there... so to discuss this ''for all future gamereplays tournaments'' seems a bit weird.
I reckon you have to discuss options for each tournament. To have anything set is stone isn't a good idea as you want to see how it plays out first imo.
I reckon you have to discuss options for each tournament. To have anything set is stone isn't a good idea as you want to see how it plays out first imo.
That is a good point and I was going to test the popular options our in a few tournaments first before they are set in stone.
7 factions in a BO7 force some player to pick a main faction they don't like. I think 5 or 6 factions would be nice, because the player has the chance to exclude a main faction.
And a further point can be the training. In the last weeks many players spended so much time to learn a single faction: Black Hand. How much time does it cost to learn 7 factions?
But ok, there is also some truth when Inca says that with 7 factions the player has to be well balanced in all the factions.
I stay with my idea Technique mentioned above:
Pick 5 factions -> select 1 of them as your starter faction. Loser picks map > winner picks faction > loser picks faction.
I would like to hear much more opinions about that. Technique and Kimosabe are the only competitive players in this topic. It shall be a system for competitive tournaments and pro-players like Masterleaf, Wookibert, Phoenix and Bikerush have the best knowledge and i think that their words should have some "weight" in this discussion !
This post has been edited by Balls of steel: Aug 19 2016, 19:57 PM
Those rules are actually to cut time loss and have no possible argument/conflict.
Like we had last weekend in your tournament. I strike nod factions after my opponent picked a good nod map, to then have him switch to a map less good for nod facs. (his good right of course - since nothing was specified)
Then in turn I could of said ''ok I don't strike then'', in which case he could of switched the map again etc... so you see why having a clear order of things is important and actually saves time. Otherwise we'll be switching maps and changing factions all day long.
Those rules are actually to cut time loss and have no possible argument/conflict.
Like we had last weekend in your tournament. I strike nod factions after my opponent picked a good nod map, to then have him switch to a map less good for nod facs. (his good right of course - since nothing was specified)
Then in turn I could of said ''ok I don't strike then'', in which case he could of switched the map again etc... so you see why having a clear order of things is important and actually saves time. Otherwise we'll be switching maps and changing factions all day long.
"Players select 7 factions. 1 faction will be their starting faction and the rest can be used in any order."
"Players select 7 factions which they will play as in the tournament. The factions will be played in the order they are selected."
Just wundering thought, if Strike rules are applied and as tech said, he strikes all Nod factions and the player has only nod factions left, what then? (if that is possible). Thought i think he would be more specific and would stirke the only BH or Nod itself.
im seeing lots of votes but lets see some discussions as well about these ideas. We have had some good discussions so far but I want more opinions please
This post has been edited by phantom9399: Aug 23 2016, 11:37 AM
how about before a series begins a player gets the opportunity to ban a few factions from the opponent to use troughout the whole series for example in bo3 i ban bh so wookibert cant use bh and in bo5 i can ban 2 factions so i ban trav and bh
I've got an idea, maybe You'll want to hear it... The Ultimate Kane's Wrath Tournament: Quarters and Semi-finals would be played in standard manner, with players picking their factions. Elimination matches would be played as BO3 where players could pick only vanilla factions (GDI, Nod, Scrin) The Grand Finals would be a series of nine mirrors, featuring all the factions and subfactions once. First match of these series would start with "underplayed" subfaction mirror (ST/MoK/R17) and would continue as the player who lost last match would pick a map (from pre-defined pool), as well as choose which faction are they going to play in next game. Of course I'm aware that some matches would come to simple tactics (like MoK mirrors would propably come down to bike buggy harassment), but I also think it just couldn't be more fair for the finalists... and with some of the better balanced factions, we would propably see a very nice matchup (I don't think both players in GDI mirror would pitbull rush )
This post has been edited by Casto Dailla: Aug 26 2016, 07:25 AM
Black hand is no doubt the most over played faction in the game and the match ups are not exactly fun to watch. We all know that players can use Black Hand effectively but what about the other 8 factions? Please take a look at the poll above and post your own ideas about the faction selections below.
With the maps we always see the same maps being played all the time. It would be nice to see some diversity which is why i have listed some options in the polls.
Please discuss your opinions below as its your comments that will decide the rulings for all future Gamereplays tournaments in regards to maps/factions.
This post has been edited by phantom9399: Aug 19 2016, 14:17 PM
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