Soulstorm

The race i always do badly against... doesn't matter what race i chose, or what BO my opponent goes for

Any help that anyone could give would be very helpful

2 GM with a offensive turret or 2 gm commie, harras with cs as usual and try to kill his builder as it can slow down de's production quite alot.

As soon as you get T2 go for HH mass and priests maybe a chimmy aswell to pile ur CS and GM in so u can execute and chase down scourges while your hh mop everything else up.

I had a quite a few IG reps vs DE but i lost them

On maps like BR turret one of the relics and mass lp2's so u can just out eco the DE player while u constant harras him with your CS.

If he has gone for a foundary bo smack his gens straight away with your CS and your can really set him back

I really don't see the point. CS detector aid you against cloacked drakes. GM granades just pwn all DE infantry, and if he reaches T2 and go for mass scourges, you just have to mass HH. Scourges can deal with one or two HH, but not much more. Indeed the only AV DE have in T2 is scourges, and their morale and health is very poor.

And in case he goes to Talos (which I never have seen online) just make a pair of sents and kite it a bit.

lol @ this thread.

Lol @ you

thx for all the help btw



This post has been edited by Hotpotato: Sep 24 2009, 18:02 PM

np.

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This post has been edited by KoMMoRRaGh: Sep 25 2009, 12:20 PM

Hh massing against DE is a bad idea. Scourges have 2.5? jumps and are immediately available in t2, almost guaranteeing that your hh's will die. Not to mention the fact that DE lp's get AV, and that scourges do good commander damage (so lone priests wont last long). Going nades vs DE is similarly bad unless all they did was mass warriors because DE will either outtech you, or just counter with melee units. Good luck trying to deal with t2.5 DE (archon, wyches, scourges, bikes) using nades when youre behind in tech. Archon alone can disable 2 squads so you wont even do much damage before wyches rape you.

Best option against DE is plasma/priest gm's with a chim+sent if they get bikes or a chim+hh if they get more wyches/t3. As long as you have a chim to ram melee units (wyches, warpbeasts, archon) and harass/escape you can stay t2 to get gm upgrades.

I piled everything into chimmies btw when i did it so priests etc didnt have to run very far before tieing up but Priest plasma is alot better +1

(cant believe i forgot GM plasma ...)

GM plasma is win. Also has the added bonus of doing decent soft-av (as most IG weapons do, even just the basic lasguns) so bikes wont roll over gm's like they do most other non-av infantry. If DE focuses on bikes, you'll need dedicated av, but you can deal with a few of them provided you arent tied up in melee.

Also you ever used GM plasma to harras a DE base, rips everything down so fast, u can take down all his/her main structures before there army has even turned around you do such good building damage

vs de, dont go hh, worst thing u can do, better off getting a tactica + HWT and upgrade to lascannon if they get t2 tanks, if not better just to have hb to help cut down those dam wyches. plasma > nades cuz theyre gonna try melee u, use cs + lone priests to harras or tie up scourges in confrontation, chimera is pretty much essential for ig de match up, cuz u need to run away when u see that wyche sqwuad running towards u and druggin that archon about to zzaaap ur men.

so yeah, warp beasts arent a problem wiuth psyker spam lighting strike morale dmg ftw?

No point getting lone Priests and Psykers with wyches on the field, and hwt vs de are a waste of req.

ughsss this was a very imba match up if i remember correctly... i haven't played in a while but the fact that the DE can outrun u... basically meant gg...

for a fact equal skill at a high level, DE won most of the time.

otherwise go with mat button's suggestion.

Personally i'd try and get 50% of the map (which is SUPER HARD against DE) and just hold it and tech.
(simple version)

eh hwt > de, they out range scourges, just dont let them die, lone priests work untill wyches and psykers are half decent to half around for morale damage, or u can just use kassies nade, but hwt are a good idea if u dont suicide them stupidly

true, but getting to t2 with ig WITH an eco to make HWT's is hard.

yea. after t2 ur set and u win.

but chances are you won't make it.

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