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# 1Gond0rH0rN Sep 18 2009, 14:29 PM
Hey Guys

when i play some games and have some inn units like elven warriors , they always told me "thats lame" also "Noobish move" , although the players that i play with r good and some of them play cw , when i play cw they get some inn units and they have no problem with that but when i play 1.06 most of them say its lame , so i want to know inn units is lame or Not?!
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# 2Deth Sep 18 2009, 14:48 PM
No its not lame. Its called knowing how to play the game.

P.S Some 1.06 players call anything lame when they are losing. Just ignore + pwn.

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# 3MasterOfPhate Sep 18 2009, 16:40 PM
QUOTE(Deth @ Sep 18 2009, 07:48 AM) *

No its not lame. Its called knowing how to play the game.

P.S Some 1.06 players call anything lame when they are losing. Just ignore + pwn.

pretty much what deth said, they are fair, don't listen to complainers. They are actually needed more on clanwars, like peasants for elves where on 1.06 peasants are not as good.
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# 4Do-Not-Rename-Me Sep 18 2009, 23:41 PM
The way I see it, it's in the game and if my opponent had the chance he would buy the "lame" things too. wink.gif
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# 5sub0ta1 Sep 19 2009, 01:32 AM
Ignore the dumb asses! Get this one. I used Gondor Knights vs this one guy on a ladder match. He had Elves and then called me a cheater then DC the
match. Who cheated?
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# 6NadeDawg Sep 19 2009, 16:48 PM
In a bigger amount Elven Warriors and Wildmen ARE lame.
In comparison to their low price their strength is too high.
Especially Elven Warriors are nearly unbeatable, they're untrampable, can be equipped with ST Arrows and have an insane range.
A Isengard X-Bow is way weaker although it costs the same.
Means lame, if you only build them.
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# 7sub0ta1 Sep 19 2009, 17:49 PM
EA patch sucks. Maddox Patch rules! Don't see any balance issues with BTDC but with 1.06 it is full of bugs, lame units and cheats. Too bad that EA will never release the 1.07 patch that would have used part of Maddox patch. Cheat or use a bug on me I report you and use lame units I will just get something lamer.

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# 8Gond0rH0rN Sep 20 2009, 06:40 AM
QUOTE(NadeDawg @ Sep 19 2009, 16:48 PM) *

In a bigger amount Elven Warriors and Wildmen ARE lame.
In comparison to their low price their strength is too high.
Especially Elven Warriors are nearly unbeatable, they're untrampable, can be equipped with ST Arrows and have an insane range.
A Isengard X-Bow is way weaker although it costs the same.
Means lame, if you only build them.


i know this is 1.06 section but also in cw they use them , why is ther big diffrence between them i mean in 2.4 and 1.6 cuz i guesse no much diffrence between them in 2.4 and 1.6 ?
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# 9NadeDawg Sep 20 2009, 08:42 AM
No changes with Wildmen but Elven Warriors were nerfed against trample damage. So on 2.4 cavalry is able to beat them.

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# 10Deth Sep 20 2009, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(NadeDawg @ Sep 19 2009, 17:48 PM) *

In a bigger amount Elven Warriors and Wildmen ARE lame.
In comparison to their low price their strength is too high.
Especially Elven Warriors are nearly unbeatable, they're untrampable, can be equipped with ST Arrows and have an insane range.
A Isengard X-Bow is way weaker although it costs the same.
Means lame, if you only build them.


They are lame because you let them spam them? It's your fault if you give them the economy to spam Inn Elves, and have you seen how slow building inn elves are? If they get 5 or 6 bats of them, it's your problem. Idk how you can call this lame, just because you get owned by it tongue.gif
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# 11MasterOfPhate Sep 20 2009, 14:38 PM
QUOTE(Gond0rH0rN @ Sep 19 2009, 23:40 PM) *

i know this is 1.06 section but also in cw they use them , why is ther big diffrence between them i mean in 2.4 and 1.6 cuz i guesse no much diffrence between them in 2.4 and 1.6 ?

changes were made to make them more balanced like he said inn elves take more trample damage etc etc. They are not lame due to their large build time, and the fact that the building is fairly easy to capture or destroy. If you can't do that, you are probably losing anyway.
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# 12NadeDawg Sep 20 2009, 17:45 PM
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They are lame because you let them spam them? It's your fault if you give them the economy to spam Inn Elves, and have you seen how slow building inn elves are? If they get 5 or 6 bats of them, it's your problem. Idk how you can call this lame, just because you get owned by it tongue.gif


Stop arguing with the Dawg, you know he's right.
It's the same pointless argument like the stupid Eagle one.
"An Eagle costs 4600 overall what do you do with your money meanwhile?"
This has not much to do with outplaying someone either.

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# 13Calanar Sep 21 2009, 10:04 AM
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They are lame because you let them spam them? It's your fault if you give them the economy to spam Inn Elves, and have you seen how slow building inn elves are? If they get 5 or 6 bats of them, it's your problem. Idk how you can call this lame, just because you get owned by it tongue.gif

Actually the construction time of inn elves is pritty fast, they hit that particular aspect with the nerf bat on BT because it contributed to them beeing so OP. Had they merely made them more vulnerable to cavalry they would probably still be OP there

The only real thing you can do against these units is simply destroying the inn. 1.06 even archers can do this in no time, and if your a faction that has little to no benefits from an inn and your facing motw, just take it down when you pass it before you are stuck fighting them off

They can be pritty lame, considering their cp cost of 40, their good production time and their relatively low cost for a tier 1,5 unit. A few tho are merely support, its when people mass them against factions like goblins, thats when they become lame. Cause its not hard to mass inn elves against goblins, you already have the stronger earlygame as motw
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# 14NadeDawg Sep 21 2009, 15:12 PM
That's what I wanted to say but couldn't explain wub.gif
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# 15Deadshot7 Sep 22 2009, 16:34 PM
Yes, some 1.06 inn units are lame. Others are not.

Lame Inn U:

Elven Warriors. These units make motw gods. Impossible to stop as certain factions (mordor, gobs). These have recieved some nerfs and are now fairly balanced (annoying how well they survive trample still tho).

Wildmen. These units w/ fire are too strong, especially when garrisoning a tower. They have recieved some nerfs as well (and are still a bit too strong me thinks)

Questionable Inn Units:

Corsairs, mainly due to their low cost/high level when purchased and the fact that in 1.06 firebombs are stupidly op.

Not-Op in ANY sense:

Hobbits-they suck in 1.06, much better in btp.

Harad Lancers-they suck in 1.06, suck a little less in btp.
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# 16Deth Sep 26 2009, 11:42 AM
I'm used to BTP inn elves so idc. MY argument still stands lol.
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# 17NadeDawg Sep 26 2009, 12:54 PM
I'm gonna ask someone with power who can edit your sig and draw a penis in it. biggrin.gif
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# 18Deth Sep 26 2009, 13:09 PM
Then i will just own you with my powers. biggrin.gif
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# 19Turin-15 Sep 26 2009, 13:29 PM
i don't use op inn units like elven warriors unless he lames against me
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# 20Desktipper Sep 27 2009, 04:19 AM
Inn Elves are lame. The only thing that can successfully fight them is battlewagons.
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