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# 1phantom9399 Nov 20 2016, 03:36 AM
So just giving you guys a heads up. Your next tournament will be on the 3rd of December and it will be an FFA Tournament. I know some of you prefer to have 1vs1 tournaments so I will speak to AOD and see if he wants to do one towards the end of December for you guys.

This FFA will be run similar to the KW FFA with 4 players facing each other and the top 2 moving on. We will have a maximum of 16 players signing up to make sure it does not last 10 hours.

Just so you guys have an idea of the map pool I will post it below.

Backwater Brawl
Crater of Carnage
Downtown Dustbowl
Frontier Fracas
Redzone Rampage
The Battle for Middle Egypt
Wrecktropolis
Oasis Onslaught
Tournament Shaft


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# 2Luvaskot Nov 20 2016, 05:34 AM
QUOTE(phantom9399 @ Nov 20 2016, 05:36 AM) *

So just giving you guys a heads up. Your next tournament will be on the 3rd of December and it will be an FFA Tournament. I know some of you prefer to have 1vs1 tournaments so I will speak to AOD and see if he wants to do one towards the end of December for you guys.

This FFA will be run similar to the KW FFA with 4 players facing each other and the top 2 moving on. We will have a maximum of 16 players signing up to make sure it does not last 10 hours.

Just so you guys have an idea of the map pool I will post it below.

Backwater Brawl
Crater of Carnage
Downtown Dustbowl
Frontier Fracas
Redzone Rampage
The Battle for Middle Egypt
Wrecktropolis
Oasis Onslaught
Tournament Shaft


Why you don't include FFA maps for FFA tournament?

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# 3phantom9399 Nov 20 2016, 07:33 AM
QUOTE(Luvaskot @ Nov 20 2016, 13:34 PM) *

Why you don't include FFA maps for FFA tournament?


Those are FFA maps? All 4 corners are the same on most of these maps. The only 2 maps that are not exactly mirrored in all 4 corners are Oasis and Fracas where 2 players are a little bit closer to each other. Even so the gameplay on Oasis was actually pretty good during the KW FFA' Tournaments.

What maps would you recommend?

In before you say Tiberium Gardens III: The reason why we do not run this map is because it is simply unbalanced and not suitable for a 4 player tournament.




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# 4Luvaskot Nov 20 2016, 12:28 PM
QUOTE(phantom9399 @ Nov 20 2016, 09:33 AM) *

Those are FFA maps? All 4 corners are the same on most of these maps. The only 2 maps that are not exactly mirrored in all 4 corners are Oasis and Fracas where 2 players are a little bit closer to each other. Even so the gameplay on Oasis was actually pretty good during the KW FFA' Tournaments.

What maps would you recommend?

In before you say Tiberium Gardens III: The reason why we do not run this map is because it is simply unbalanced and not suitable for a 4 player tournament.


Split Decision
Suburban Slaughterhouse
Tundra Triangle
Isthmus of Insanity
Nods Gardens

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# 5phantom9399 Nov 20 2016, 12:41 PM
QUOTE(Luvaskot @ Nov 20 2016, 20:28 PM) *

Split Decision
Suburban Slaughterhouse
Tundra Triangle
Isthmus of Insanity
Nods Gardens


Spilt Decision, Suburban and Tundra are 3 player maps. This is a 4 player ffa event.
Isthmus is not balanced for a 4 player ffa. 2 players will get extra fields
Nods Gardens is to big.

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# 6~AngelOfDeath~ Nov 20 2016, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(phantom9399 @ Nov 20 2016, 12:41 PM) *

Isthmus is not balanced for a 4 player ffa. 2 players will get extra fields
Nods Gardens is to big.


These maps are good enough imo.

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# 7shocktapus Nov 20 2016, 13:46 PM
There will be no sign ups - 2v2 would have been better for variety.

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# 8~AngelOfDeath~ Nov 20 2016, 14:16 PM
QUOTE(Sh0ckTr34tment @ Nov 20 2016, 13:46 PM) *

There will be no sign ups - 2v2 would have been better for variety.


What makes you think 2vs2 would have been better than FFA? In fact, none of these formats were used for some period of time, but I don't think FFA would have had less sign ups than 2vs2.

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# 9shocktapus Nov 20 2016, 15:00 PM
QUOTE(~AngelOfDeath~ @ Nov 20 2016, 15:16 PM) *

What makes you think 2vs2 would have been better than FFA? In fact, none of these formats were used for some period of time, but I don't think FFA would have had less sign ups than 2vs2.


People like wanted/goodday2die have been asking for a 2v2 tournament for ages. Based on KW numbers, FFA is the least popular format with the least amount of regular tournament participants signing up. TW doesn't have a big enough community for it to work.

I think 2v2 would at least get a 4-6 team bracket. FFA tournament I think you'll get maybe 5 sign ups at best?

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# 10~AngelOfDeath~ Nov 20 2016, 15:14 PM
QUOTE(Sh0ckTr34tment @ Nov 20 2016, 15:00 PM) *

People like wanted/goodday2die have been asking for a 2v2 tournament for ages. Based on KW numbers, FFA is the least popular format with the least amount of regular tournament participants signing up. TW doesn't have a big enough community for it to work.

I think 2v2 would at least get a 4-6 team bracket. FFA tournament I think you'll get maybe 5 sign ups at best?


You might be right, although you cannot be sure if it will work out if you don't try it. I personally believe it will. If it won't, then next month we can host a 2vs2 event.

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# 11eXs.bikefan Nov 20 2016, 15:20 PM
Why not make a topic just to see how many would sign up, or at least try to participate (because not everyone who signs up does show up)?

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# 12onch-onch Nov 20 2016, 16:13 PM
shock is right on it. 2v2 is better tongue.gif

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# 13Maze. Nov 20 2016, 16:26 PM
i really like ffa tournaments, but as I said, it's probably imposible for tw sad.gif

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# 14phantom9399 Nov 21 2016, 08:50 AM
QUOTE(Sh0ckTr34tment @ Nov 20 2016, 23:00 PM) *

People like wanted/goodday2die have been asking for a 2v2 tournament for ages. Based on KW numbers, FFA is the least popular format with the least amount of regular tournament participants signing up. TW doesn't have a big enough community for it to work.

I think 2v2 would at least get a 4-6 team bracket. FFA tournament I think you'll get maybe 5 sign ups at best?


To be fair, the first KW FFA had a full brackets of 16 players. The second FFA had 24 players participating. That means those 2 tournaments have more popularity compared to the 1vs1 tournaments where the average amount of players is between 10 and 18. (This is including the tournaments before the R12 issues.)

QUOTE(Claymore92 @ Nov 20 2016, 23:20 PM) *

Why not make a topic just to see how many would sign up, or at least try to participate (because not everyone who signs up does show up)?


Good suggestion, I should of done that first. My bad.

QUOTE(onch-onch @ Nov 21 2016, 00:13 AM) *

shock is right on it. 2v2 is better tongue.gif


Hmm I could do a 2vs2 if you guys would rather it.

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# 15Luvaskot Nov 21 2016, 11:54 AM
Shock is right, 2 vs 2 could be better. Also there is not compiled version of ''Frontier Fracas'' which make games extra laggy. Adding it to the map pool is not good idea I think.

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# 16phantom9399 Nov 21 2016, 15:08 PM
QUOTE(Luvaskot @ Nov 21 2016, 19:54 PM) *

Shock is right, 2 vs 2 could be better. Also there is not compiled version of ''Frontier Fracas'' which make games extra laggy. Adding it to the map pool is not good idea I think.


That's right Frontier Fracas is a Kane Edition map. My bad.

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# 17shocktapus Nov 21 2016, 18:07 PM
QUOTE(onch-onch @ Nov 20 2016, 17:13 PM) *

shock is right on it. 2v2 is better tongue.gif


QUOTE(Dimitery @ Nov 21 2016, 02:07 AM) *

Shocktreatment is right you know. This is a community website, so the community should have a voice...

Edit: Also, sign me up. If I'm around I'll play.


QUOTE(Luvaskot @ Nov 21 2016, 12:54 PM) *

Shock is right, 2 vs 2 could be better. Also there is not compiled version of ''Frontier Fracas'' which make games extra laggy. Adding it to the map pool is not good idea I think.


Just saying biggrin.gif

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# 18Olli Nov 21 2016, 18:14 PM
gives the tournament just a chance and sign me up wink.gif

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# 19Luvaskot Nov 21 2016, 19:46 PM
If you fill all of the 32 players bracket I'm up to any kind of tournament. But don't know how can you get that when we cannot find much people as we want even in 1v1/2v2 tournaments. Just make a poll in KW section how many of them can join this FFA tourney, I'm sure we cannot get enough players from TW.

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# 20Goofing Nov 23 2016, 21:48 PM
Obviously it's nice to try something new but this just wont work, there won't be enough people wanting to play in it.

I have been active online recently and of the very few players that remain no-one has ever wanted to do a ffa game. People always would rather play or even just observe a 1v1 or 2v2 game.

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