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Will we get more balance, thoughts ?

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# 1SighintheSky Oct 30 2009, 11:14 AM
Everytime I come on here I cant help but wonder, is Relic even gonna bother updating the game before chaos rising, no dev has commented on whether this is the case or not.

It always make me question whether we should even consider balance because, if the above is true and they dont update. All this discussion is pointless as the extra race, combined units and extra commanders will mess everything up !

So what are peoples thoughts on this ?

I didnt really follow the updates on the last dow games, so perhaps some of you know how this works ?

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# 2SmokingJoeNL Oct 30 2009, 11:22 AM
the changes needed for 1.9 thread could be a good base for another so and ko mod.
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# 3R1av3r Oct 30 2009, 11:38 AM
Relic sayed, that they will add an Map in game, Map, that won at contest. So, we will see an update at near future. And im 100% sure, that itll be not only one map.
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# 4SighintheSky Oct 30 2009, 11:43 AM
QUOTE(SmokingJoeNL @ Oct 30 2009, 12:22 PM) *

the changes needed for 1.9 thread could be a good base for another so and ko mod.


Indeed, but that isnt balance from relic and unfortunatly not to belittle Kolaris work because I was a big fan of it, not enough people seem to be interested to make much of a difference in the long term.

Although relic did adopt some of the changes be it coincidence or actually taking good stufg ...
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# 5SOLAR1S Oct 30 2009, 11:48 AM
I'm sure we'll see a hot fix to deal with bugs from the implementation of TLS etc, whether it'll carry a map and some small changes who knows.
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# 6Caeltos Oct 30 2009, 13:42 PM
Probably won't see anything this year, but maybe in January ._.
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# 7cicho-sza Oct 30 2009, 16:03 PM
Since they are releasing 'hotfix' 1.9 I guess they could as well treat _all_ differences between changelog for 1.8 and real state of game as bugs, and fix them as well - and that is a lot, just starting from XP values for gaunts and sluggas, to finish with improper changes of units dps and leveling.
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# 8fischbs Oct 30 2009, 20:29 PM
I'm sure we'll see one more patch. Feels pretty close to balanced at the moment. Few tweaks here and there and we'll be good to go until Chaos Rising.
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# 9Alpha668 Oct 31 2009, 03:07 AM
I hope there will not be any further patches!
Relic will only fuck up balance even more with every patch so just be happy its screwed over as it is right now. They alter some of it and it will be screwed over to new hights so better not.

As for "real" balance, well if people actually ditched the crap relic does and play kolaris balance log instead then you have a pretty fun and balanced game.
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# 10slow_learner Oct 31 2009, 04:36 AM
OBVIOUSLY Relic will NEVER EVER EVER balance this game ever again.

We should all make threads about our outrage that Relic isn't updating the game ever again.

SOURCES: Google, look it up, durr.
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# 11SighintheSky Oct 31 2009, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(slow_learner @ Oct 31 2009, 05:36 AM) *

OBVIOUSLY Relic will NEVER EVER EVER balance this game ever again.

We should all make threads about our outrage that Relic isn't updating the game ever again.

SOURCES: Google, look it up, durr.


Dude please find a hole and die in it.
This isnt a thread about our rage that relic isnt updating, its supposed to be a thread for me to find out if relic is going to update their game again before chaos rising.
As previously stated I dont know much about relics patching history other than they have been quite spread about for dow2. In dow1 and exp things may have been different ...

Also if 'google, look it up, durr' was actually useful for this I would have done that but it was not, so again find a hole and die. Or better yet go troll the community forums, people like you fit in well.
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# 12woppin Oct 31 2009, 14:03 PM
QUOTE(Caeltos @ Oct 30 2009, 23:42 PM) *

Probably won't see anything this year, but maybe in January ._.


A reasonable timeframe. Chaos Rising development and balance will delay the patch more than the last I think, but I doubt we'll go through until March without an update.
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# 13Lord Lokgar Oct 31 2009, 14:09 PM
QUOTE(SighintheSky @ Oct 31 2009, 06:46 AM) *

Dude please find a hole and die in it.
This isnt a thread about our rage that relic isnt updating, its supposed to be a thread for me to find out if relic is going to update their game again before chaos rising.
As previously stated I dont know much about relics patching history other than they have been quite spread about for dow2. In dow1 and exp things may have been different ...

Also if 'google, look it up, durr' was actually useful for this I would have done that but it was not, so again find a hole and die. Or better yet go troll the community forums, people like you fit in well.

Learn to Sarcasm.
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# 14SighintheSky Oct 31 2009, 14:32 PM
okay.

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# 15Alpha668 Oct 31 2009, 14:57 PM
Nah, slow is just a relic fanboy, happy with whatever scraps they throw at him and that his favorite race is winning.

I on the other hand am fed up with everything taking place and being more important then freaking game balance. Relic has only managed to fuck things up on an epic scale by taking away the lore and feeling along with balance. To manage to do that takes a freaking intent to fuck up the game, there is no other way I can see it!

In e v e r y attempt relic tried to screw over the game at least one race is totally unplayable vs at least one other race. All while the lore gets shafted more and more with smoked up idiot inventions like the newest armour classes and taking noob whining at face value incorporatign it into the game.

Honestly, if it wasnt so god damned illogical I´d say relic deliberately tries their best to screw over the game balance or what little is left of it.
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# 16ZoRPrimE Oct 31 2009, 15:12 PM
QUOTE(slow_learner @ Oct 30 2009, 21:36 PM) *

OBVIOUSLY Relic will NEVER EVER EVER balance this game ever again.

We should all make threads about our outrage that Relic isn't updating the game ever again.

SOURCES: Google, look it up, durr.



What do you mean again? They balanced DoW2 at one point in time?? I don't remember that. I thought relic just 'mixed things up a bit' with patch's.

Relic pretty much always patches before the release of a new expansion. However, the patch will be mostly for issues with new expansion. At expansion launch there's usually something way more of a problem than whatever you were concerned about pre-launch.
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# 17bluefootedboobies Oct 31 2009, 17:52 PM
I get the feeling that Relic / THQ don't really care much about it, and I think we know that the team working on it is far too small. It wouldn't surprise me at all if only 'hot-fixes' come out between now and Chaos Rising - which will no doubt convince fewer people to buy it :-/

They should be providing constant incremental improvements and fixes. It's been more than two weeks since TLS came out ... I'm sure they could have issued bug fixes for several things by now - and they certainly could have reset Rangers / sniper rifles / Banshees to the stats they had in the previous patch (thereby eliminating the only completely game-breaking balance problem).
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# 18SighintheSky Oct 31 2009, 17:57 PM
QUOTE(bluefootedboobies @ Oct 31 2009, 18:52 PM) *

I get the feeling that Relic / THQ don't really care much about it, and I think we know that the team working on it is far too small. It wouldn't surprise me at all if only 'hot-fixes' come out between now and Chaos Rising - which will no doubt convince fewer people to buy it :-/

They should be providing constant incremental improvements and fixes. It's been more than two weeks since TLS came out ... I'm sure they could have issued bug fixes for several things by now - and they certainly could have reset Rangers / sniper rifles / Banshees to the stats they had in the previous patch (thereby eliminating the only completely game-breaking balance problem).


Agreed, the fact they did nothing about some bugs in the TLS patch, says to me they were most likely stalling until the release of chaos rising. I guess what we have to remember is its all about the money. TLS brought in some players and so will chaos rising.
The impression I am getting is 'if we sell more games great, if people then stop playing who cares we have our money ?' Though this is obviously an exaggeration and I hope its nothing like this at all.
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# 19SOLAR1S Oct 31 2009, 18:10 PM
I think everyone just needs to take a step back, or at least to another game.........
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# 20SighintheSky Oct 31 2009, 18:28 PM
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I think everyone just needs to take a step back, or at least to another game.........

why exactly do you think that ?
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