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# 41Ambartanen Jun 4 2008, 04:56 AM
QUOTE(Xenai @ Jun 3 2008, 21:23 PM) *

sad.gif How do you guys feel about it?

I personally don't care about it but I've had tons of people use it as an excuse to dodge.

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# 42Xenith Aug 14 2008, 18:11 PM
Can some kind soul drop me a couple of replays of effective lancer usage? Any MU

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# 43Mr.Shankly Aug 14 2008, 19:55 PM
Hmmm.......... I will post my ones in the Mu vs goblins/motw later on, as i think that is prob the MU's they are best in.

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# 44Xenith Aug 14 2008, 22:28 PM
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Hmmm.......... I will post my ones in the Mu vs goblins/motw later on, as i think that is prob the MU's they are best in.


kool, thx a bunch wub.gif I tried them vs. mordor today and they worked pretty well actually. Just use a lot of them at once and send them over to his side only when his naz are on your side, and you should be able to do a fair amount of damage, especially if you use RC, and not take many losses as long as you stealth some miths in trees and retreat your lancers into them when his naz get there.

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# 45FreedomX10A Aug 14 2008, 23:33 PM
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Can some kind soul drop me a couple of replays of effective lancer usage? Any MU

lancers are nearly useless in all mu's cept the goblins one, never needed em otherwise.

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# 46SirKitty Aug 15 2008, 01:29 AM
I like em against men if they are heavily spamming archers/soldiers (which is almost always the case), and gobs ofc

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# 47Mr.Shankly Aug 15 2008, 01:37 AM
They are good vs isen to imo and later on with armor (also with fb) are good at taking PB. Great to help defend from all sort of cav other than rohirm

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# 48qgolfman Aug 15 2008, 04:07 AM
There harass is great vs. Motw and Gobs and Isen too, but Arwen is just an all around better option in most cases. They can also be good vs Dwarves but only after your first few creeps.

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# 49Xenith Aug 15 2008, 14:05 PM
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They are good vs isen to imo and later on with armor (also with fb) are good at taking PB. Great to help defend from all sort of cav other than rohirm


Which cav do they win against 1 on 1 unupped?

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# 50Mr.Shankly Aug 15 2008, 15:29 PM
Hmm none iirc. Although with knights its close, whats that got to do with Hamish and his great uncle Jack?

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# 51qgolfman Aug 19 2008, 00:11 AM
How do you counter cavalry harassment once knights/wargs etc. hit the field ? I usually don't have any heroes out yet.

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# 52FreedomX10A Aug 19 2008, 00:46 AM
uh well lancers have a good use to counter enemy cavalry harrasement, with pike and archer support, usually i just stick with mith and archer only (though they tend to get more trees)

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# 53Xenith Aug 19 2008, 02:09 AM
vs. isen you should be getting a fast arwen, and she's a great warg harass counter. vs. men just stick archer mith combo's at each ford in the trees and keep adding to them. Its kind of boring, will get you accused of camping, and is a bit lame, but it is also extremely effective and one of the only ways i've found of beating men, if you even survive past the GA spam

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# 54Mr.Shankly Aug 19 2008, 10:34 AM
I dont defend with arwen unless im really desperate i think she is way better at harassing. To counter a knight a lone lancer is usually enough, Vs wargs a lancer and arher pike combo RAPES it, also vs men you will prob alerady have a couple lancers if they went GA before. If the men player sends his knights in a big group just pwning your tree's then you want arwen's flood or thran/lego to stop that (keep making sure you can kill off his knights so he has to keep rebuilding them).

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# 55FreedomX10A Aug 19 2008, 13:42 PM
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I dont defend with arwen unless im really desperate i think she is way better at harassing. To counter a knight a lone lancer is usually enough, Vs wargs a lancer and arher pike combo RAPES it, also vs men you will prob alerady have a couple lancers if they went GA before. If the men player sends his knights in a big group just pwning your tree's then you want arwen's flood or thran/lego to stop that (keep making sure you can kill off his knights so he has to keep rebuilding them).


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# 56SirKitty Aug 19 2008, 19:39 PM
I think lancers do well against wargs with no howl. however with howl wargs like 1-2 shot lancers or something redic. like that.

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# 57Mr.Shankly Aug 19 2008, 21:26 PM
Yeah, but if he howls he's running its a waste of howl and with the lancer you just need to keep checking then run when he targets, and he loses damage fast (esp with the armor weakness with howl now).

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# 58FreedomX10A Aug 19 2008, 21:47 PM
just take the hits if you have pike+archer back because you can always just heal your lancer and he loses a warg.

and like shankly says hit and run the warg if he's stronger

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# 59Mr.Shankly Aug 20 2008, 01:04 AM
Yeah I sorta dont agree with the mutual anihilation thing with the warg and lancer though, cause it gives out unnecessary PP.

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# 60FreedomX10A Aug 20 2008, 02:01 AM
well it doesn't have to be mutual annhilation just to sort of keep him in place while your archers get hits on him


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