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Why do so many people dislike Browder?

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# 1EchoZero47 Oct 30 2008, 08:17 AM
I've been stumbling upon many negative comments regarding Browder for quite some time now. Just curious as to why so many seem to think that he shouldn't be project lead when SC2 seems to be shaping up to be a 1st class game...
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# 2-Izzo- Oct 30 2008, 13:22 PM
Moved to Mess Hall.
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# 3triumph Oct 31 2008, 01:19 AM
I'm a big fan of his work in the industry and I think SC2 is shaping up very well in his hands so I don't really see why he'd be ragged on or why this topic is considered off topic when he is dictating gameplay and game design.
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# 4Shadowfury333 Nov 2 2008, 22:36 PM
Probably because he worked on several games for EA before moving to Blizzard, which were not great games, from a SC fan standpoint. Obviously that wasn't entirely Browder's fault, but it does mean that any "non-SC/noobifying" change to SC2 will be assumed to be Browder's call.

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# 5avilo Nov 6 2008, 17:08 PM
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Probably because he worked on several games for EA before moving to Blizzard, which were not great games, from a SC fan standpoint. Obviously that wasn't entirely Browder's fault, but it does mean that any "non-SC/noobifying" change to SC2 will be assumed to be Browder's call.


browder is n00bifying the game!
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# 6triumph Nov 7 2008, 03:00 AM
QUOTE(EchoZero47 @ Oct 30 2008, 00:17 AM) *

Just curious as to why so many seem to think that he shouldn't be project lead

ahem.
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# 7Warhawk Dec 6 2008, 07:11 AM
really I have not seen to many negative comments I usually read mostly positive. Where are these negative comments coming from? Team liquid...?

I like his work he created 2 of my 4 favorite rts games ra 2 and gens/zh (sc and coh are my other two)

He seems to be doing a good job with sc2 but the way mbs and such is being handled is up for debate.
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# 8HolyNight Dec 10 2008, 13:18 PM
cause Rob Pardo is better than him and was against this automatization shitty talk
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# 9JimRaynor Jul 9 2009, 07:43 AM
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cause Rob Pardo is better than him and was against this automatization shitty talk

relax people when the game does not ship in 2009 Browder will be removed from his position as project lead.. Rob already skewered him on the "No LAN support" issue....

whenever Bob Kotick starts to feel too much pressure from shareholders he does what every good executive does...
he fires someone smile.gif
Go Get Em Bob!
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# 10Echo Jul 10 2009, 03:21 AM
And you are certain of this because......

I mean why bother firing the people who actually produce and make the game, fire the lead balance designer laugh.gif
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# 11yrba1 Jul 11 2009, 21:13 PM
It would be nice if Dustin Browder would become lead designer for Company of Heroes 2, though he'd really need to study the aspects of the game since it's really, really different compared to Starcraft or Command & Conquer.
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# 12Darknesslol Jul 22 2009, 23:41 PM
It would be better if The Leader of Activison has no take in Blizzard's Team in firing people.

It would be much better if Blizzard's Actual CEO fires people but I don't really like people getting fired because how bad the economy is. >.<

I like Dustin Browder in creating a very Micro Intensive Game called Generals; Though EA was pushing EALA even more so than Activison is in Blizzard's Development. smile.gif
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# 13Celebrimor Aug 9 2009, 12:44 PM
He won't get fired.
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# 14AgmLauncher Aug 9 2009, 15:17 PM
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relax people when the game does not ship in 2009 Browder will be removed from his position as project lead.. Rob already skewered him on the "No LAN support" issue....


Skewered him? Got some proof?

Honestly nothing about that statement makes a shred of sense.

You seem to be over-estimating Browder's position. Browder is the lead designer, not the executive producer. Browder alone cannot make the call to just drop LAN support entirely. That's something only the EP can do, and I would assume it's something that would also need Rob's approval. I know it would need my approval if I were in Rob's shoes.

Dropping LAN support has as much to do with fighting piracy as it does enhancing the MP gameplay experience by keeping people on BNet. If it has something to do with anti-piracy measures, then that is definitely an executive-level decision as it affects Blizzard's balance sheets.
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# 15Campaigner Aug 11 2009, 00:57 AM
Avilo, team liquid and some other guys but most like him. I think he's great. You can feel his enthusiasm for what he does.

The fact that he scraps what doesn't work and tries entirely new things really make me confident in his role.
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