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# 21iBagel Aug 29 2009, 08:12 AM
lol epic clan /b/lackup. your agreeing with him without knowing what hes on about. he wants to build SoTM over getting a totem. which you basically just said is wrong.

Even if its rare to happen, when the time comes, the moments right, and the stars align, people will know which item to get instead of not having a clue.

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# 2213laded Aug 29 2009, 14:19 PM
QUOTE(iBagel @ Aug 29 2009, 09:12 AM) *

lol epic clan /b/lackup. your agreeing with him without knowing what hes on about. he wants to build SoTM over getting a totem. which you basically just said is wrong.

Even if its rare to happen, when the time comes, the moments right, and the stars align, people will know which item to get instead of not having a clue.


Here it is again, I never said you should build SoTM OVER Totem, that's a ludicrous statement, ofc you should get totem the majority of the time if you're building a late-game item at all.

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# 23chappY Aug 29 2009, 16:49 PM
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1. A team lacking in damage output is a bad team
2. A team lacking in disables is a bad team
3. You can never have enough disables

Teams often lack in something significant for pubs, and it is typically disable... and skill.

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# 24iBagel Aug 30 2009, 08:17 AM
QUOTE(13laded @ Aug 29 2009, 15:19 PM) *

Here it is again, I never said you should build SoTM OVER Totem, that's a ludicrous statement, ofc you should get totem the majority of the time if you're building a late-game item at all.


Well thats what i thought you meaant, considering you typed SoTM in everything you said.

and stridah, since when are we talking about pub games?

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# 2513laded Aug 30 2009, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(iBagel @ Aug 30 2009, 09:17 AM) *

Well thats what i thought you meaant, considering you typed SoTM in everything you said.

and stridah, since when are we talking about pub games?


Ok... Well maybe you should read my posts instead of just assuming I said SoTM IS TEH BEST ITAM because the post contained SoTM..

And yes we're sometimes talking about pub games because the vast majority of people who read the guide will be looking for a way to play Thunderbringer in a pub game - if they're reading a basic guide like this to learn to play thunderbringer in scrims they should probably still be playing pub games..

Or EM.

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# 26TimFortres Aug 30 2009, 17:31 PM
KGB_(insertrestofthenickhere) is awsome.

Tried both pebbles and zeus gudies, all are great.

I like how you provide mid game items, instead of cuting straight to expensive stuffs like in most official forume guides.

What's your HoN nick?

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# 27KGB_Killer Aug 30 2009, 19:25 PM
my hon name is KGB_Killer; and the pebbles guide isnt mine, just glacius and thunderbringer so far.

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# 28kustodian Aug 30 2009, 20:51 PM
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Tried both pebbles and zeus gudies, all are great.

Pebbles guide is made by ichigotowar and thunderbringer is by KGB_killer. I'm glad you like them biggrin.gif There are more underway...

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# 29ichigotowar Aug 31 2009, 00:11 AM
pebbles guide is mine smile.gif happy that it worked out for you smile.gif

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# 30iBagel Aug 31 2009, 01:06 AM
QUOTE(13laded @ Aug 29 2009, 15:19 PM) *

Ok... Well maybe you should read my posts instead of just assuming I said SoTM IS TEH BEST ITAM because the post contained SoTM..

And yes we're sometimes talking about pub games because the vast majority of people who read the guide will be looking for a way to play Thunderbringer in a pub game - if they're reading a basic guide like this to learn to play thunderbringer in scrims they should probably still be playing pub games..

Or EM.


we agreed in the staff section to gear advice towards competitive play and not cater for pub stomps.

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# 31Aeonstorm Aug 31 2009, 08:15 AM
QUOTE(iBagel @ Aug 31 2009, 11:06 AM) *

we agreed in the staff section to gear advice towards competitive play and not cater for pub stomps.


Then you should make some pub guides in addition as many players such as me are noobs to the Dota-type game and competitive guides dont really help that much.

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# 32Utred Aug 31 2009, 08:35 AM
Competitive guides will work in pubs too, generally.

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# 33Aeonstorm Aug 31 2009, 08:49 AM
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Competitive guides will work in pubs too, generally.


I guess, but the problem is that there are some awesome strats which won't work against pros but rape against ordinary players.

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# 34KGB_Killer Aug 31 2009, 08:59 AM
In most cases the only reason why insane strats work against bad players is because the speed at which you are able to farm the items. Obviously if you can farm a 9 minute codex it is going to rape on thunderbringer. But spending the same amount on a pro build will make you just as strong. The only thing playing agianst weaker opponents does is open up some alternative builds; but it never means that the competitive build wont be just as or probably more effective.
BTW please dont say codex thunderbringer is retarded because i was just using it as an example and i would never actually get it, its just used to prove my point that it would work if you farmed it in 9 minutes.

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# 35Aeonstorm Sep 10 2009, 11:26 AM
Thanks for the guide, I'm getting quite good at ganking with thunderbringer now. I just got an 11/0 game smile.gif

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# 36KGB_Killer Sep 12 2009, 05:49 AM
glad you like it smile.gif

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# 37deso Feb 22 2011, 18:17 PM
This is quite sad, 1 year since Ive checked this site for the last time and this guide has seen no (really important) updates on the items sections.

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# 38kustodian Feb 23 2011, 01:35 AM
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This is quite sad, 1 year since Ive checked this site for the last time and this guide has seen no (really important) updates on the items sections.

Well it's not like we have anyone but Luk and Syl writing stuff sad.gif

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# 39Witchking' Feb 23 2011, 08:35 AM
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Well it's not like we have anyone but Luk and Syl writing stuff sad.gif

So why does the recent news post only talk about artists when you are apparently in the bad need of strategy specialists?

Imo, you need one competent person that completely focuses on keeping guides up to date, because there's nothing worse than reading of a ring of sorcery as recommended first item for a tb these days.

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# 40kustodian Feb 25 2011, 02:36 AM
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So why does the recent news post only talk about artists when you are apparently in the bad need of strategy specialists?

Because we never got one strategy specialist that way. Only good ones were those that wrote guides before we promoted them.

QUOTE(Witchking' @ Feb 23 2011, 09:35 AM) *

Imo, you need one competent person that completely focuses on keeping guides up to date, because there's nothing worse than reading of a ring of sorcery as recommended first item for a tb these days.

One person isn't enough to keep all 50 guides up to date, we need a lot more, but it seams people over here are not that much interested in writing guides sad.gif

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