Battle for Middle Earth 2 - 1.08

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# 1Crabby Lobster Sep 6 2009, 17:57 PM
build order - 4furn - urukpit - sentry - pike

Start 4Furnace - 2 on sides of fortress, one behind it, and one hidden.
Build your Uruk Pit behind one of the furnaces.
Build Sentry directly behind your fortress, so it can protect the 3furns and uruk pit.
Build your Pike and creep the Troll, nearest your base. Then spam corsairs from it.

You can build a second uruk pit or a warg pit after your second uruk if you want, that's optional.

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# 2`KIBbY` Sep 6 2009, 18:22 PM
Not enough security at the creeps.

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# 3Crabby Lobster Sep 6 2009, 20:40 PM
Goblins won't normally check the troll lair until after you've creeped it. Other Isengard strategies have just as little protection as this one, if not worse. You can probably have your xbow at the creep before you're finished if you want to anyway. Even if they do creep steal, it isn't that big of a deal because you started with four furnaces anyway.

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# 4Valente Sep 6 2009, 22:18 PM
wow man very good tactic, Ive to watch the replay, but can you creep the troll with level 1 Pikes?

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# 5FreedomX10A Sep 6 2009, 23:36 PM
I'm faintly certain they can but I suppose you can pick warchant to be safe.

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# 6Crabby Lobster Sep 7 2009, 01:26 AM
On 1.06 you can't creep troll, on 2.4 you can. Picking war chant is fail imo.

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# 7FreedomX10A Sep 7 2009, 14:34 PM
Warchant is pretty OK.

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# 8NadeDawg Sep 7 2009, 14:36 PM
QUOTE(Ba1d`BuNNy @ Sep 7 2009, 03:26 AM) *

On 1.06 you can't creep troll, on 2.4 you can. Picking war chant is fail imo.

Indeed, but Uruk Pikes can creep a Troll on Lvl. 1 on 1.06 if you micro them well.

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# 9Crabby Lobster Sep 7 2009, 16:10 PM
It isn't worth creeping the troll though. You get it with like 5 guys left in your bat and then you have to micro then around the get all the chests cuz of the rocks, which can take a while.

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# 10NadeDawg Sep 7 2009, 16:16 PM
That's why I don't creep trolls first on 1.6 biggrin.gif

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# 11`KIBbY` Sep 7 2009, 17:15 PM
In other Isengard strategies you'll usually be attacking. All of the goblin warriors will be on their way towards you because they don't need any for protection. They might creep steal.

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# 12Crabby Lobster Sep 7 2009, 19:16 PM
If they're on their way towards you, they won't creep steal you because the troll lair is way in the corner of the map.

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# 13Mr.Shankly Sep 9 2009, 22:58 PM
How much do you get from the troll? isnt it like 800?

Isnt a sentry 450? Then 450 for the isen pike, thats quite an investment tbh sure it can defend your 3 rbs for some of the game but meh idk. Sounds interesting though. And then you are also delaying your wargpit too, by investing in the inn units/units from your uruk pit too.

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# 14Crabby Lobster Sep 10 2009, 04:05 AM
I go double uruk pit when I use this tbh. Wargs should only be used vs 3 cave spam probably, when you use this build order.

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# 15Rainmaker Sep 11 2009, 16:08 PM
Is this only against Gobs?

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# 16NadeDawg Sep 11 2009, 19:22 PM
No it's works vs. noobs, too biggrin.gif

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# 17Crabby Lobster Sep 11 2009, 21:08 PM
Only vs gobs. It could also work vs Mordor I think, but other strats would be better.

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# 18Mifune Sep 14 2009, 01:06 AM
I think wargs are better in this mu than sentries. You are gonna need wargs anyway and I would rather get them earlier so that I can use them to harass. 4 furn ownz gobs tbh. You just have to be agressive and creep with your first and/or second unit from rax.

Oh and creeping is much safer when you have wargs on the map for backup.


This might be better if you cant micro wargs though.

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# 19Crabby Lobster Sep 14 2009, 01:16 AM
It is possible for Gobs to destroy at least 2 furns before you can get a Warg out with 4 furn. They should at least get one everytime. Do 3Furn Warg Rush instead of 4furn; gobs won't have pikes anyway so you don't need instant unit mix.

Working on guide for this mu atm biggrin.gif .

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# 20Valente Sep 27 2009, 06:57 AM
This strat has lots of potential tbh, but sad that no1 is discussing.

1) Going straight for Creeping fucks his strat in the ass.

2) Why not Urukrush? Especially against Mordor, now your base is "safe" I would get 2 uruks at the beginning and start taking his RBs down.

Btw sentries are very cheap 400 RS, as I said this tac has insane potential in Isen vs Mordor MU.

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