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2.02 Balance Suggestions

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# 141Forlong Sep 8 2009, 22:43 PM
Evidentially someone (who? me? innocent.gif ) forgot to make a topic for balance suggestions for the 2.1 patch. I know there's not a ton of stuff that's significantly imbalanced anymore, but there sure is room to tweak things to make certain units more or less used, and improve balance in certain match-ups. Plus I miss the days of the 100+ page threads with everybody debating the same topic for twenty pages, those were fun. Just like the bug reports topic, everything here gets read pretty closely and I'll try to respond to as much as I can. Don't be afraid to bring up old suggestions either - if it's something you posted in the 2.02e balance suggestions topic but that didn't get in and you feel it's still relevant, bring it up again.

Let's start with this one that Elrohir PMed to me because there was no topic:

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How about making units immune to Horn of Gondor already at level 3 or maybe even 2. It would be a HUGE motivation for getting Banner Carriers vs Men if they were resistant already at level 2. smile.gif

Just for reference, this would make the units immune to effects like Cloud Break as well.

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Forlong   2.02 Balance Suggestions   Sep 8 2009, 22:43 PM
Strongbad   I think Level 3 sounds like a good idea. And sor...   Sep 8 2009, 23:05 PM
HellboyMC   I think it's an awful idea, cloud break is a 1...   Sep 8 2009, 23:18 PM
Radiohead   do you really want to spend more time on this?   Sep 8 2009, 23:25 PM
Thoon   Tbh, which is more worth focusing on. Making banne...   Sep 9 2009, 01:46 AM
Forlong   I think Level 3 sounds like a good idea. And sorry...   Sep 9 2009, 02:15 AM
Strongbad   Did you check the link? :? Yeah it was backwar...   Sep 9 2009, 22:37 PM
Radiohead   Well is it worth spending the time to balance a pa...   Sep 9 2009, 03:23 AM
Bumpin'Bob   I think it's an awful idea, cloud break is a ...   Sep 9 2009, 05:46 AM
'Fëanor   Well RadioHead, i sure agree with what ur saying,...   Sep 9 2009, 09:33 AM
Ryder   Just separate Horn of Gondor fear from all other ...   Sep 9 2009, 12:27 PM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   hmmm well i suppose it would make boromir an early...   Sep 9 2009, 12:45 PM
HellboyMC   I thought mini hero hordes would get immune with l...   Sep 9 2009, 13:05 PM
Anadune   remove towers from buck?   Sep 9 2009, 14:17 PM
Jace   btw gj on the patch guys, i dont get to play onlin...   Sep 9 2009, 16:06 PM
Zatox   towers are just a part of buckland.. imo maybe mak...   Sep 9 2009, 19:15 PM
God`Help`Me`Scream   Powers like Dwarven RIches, Fuel the fires, and Mo...   Sep 9 2009, 21:11 PM
Thoon   Powers like Dwarven RIches, Fuel the fires, and M...   Sep 10 2009, 00:49 AM
Forlong   I like how units heal when thy reach level 4 btw, ...   Sep 9 2009, 21:20 PM
Forlong   Powers like Dwarven RIches, Fuel the fires, and Mo...   Sep 10 2009, 01:37 AM
Thoon   I didn't realize he meant about them stacking,...   Sep 10 2009, 01:45 AM
kazjon   fear at level 3 is bllshit and mini heros shouldnt...   Sep 10 2009, 06:47 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   I like riches and marketplace, its gives u more op...   Sep 10 2009, 14:19 PM
ConGrUenCy™   I like riches and marketplace, its gives u more o...   Sep 10 2009, 15:43 PM
Elrohir´   Just separate Horn of Gondor fear from all other ...   Sep 10 2009, 14:43 PM
Elrohir´   Ok, healing at level 3, but respawning at level 2...   Sep 10 2009, 17:15 PM
Gregory   Please don't ruin heroes, hero spam is fine an...   Sep 10 2009, 17:18 PM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   fuck off if i had a choice id make all heroes hav...   Sep 10 2009, 17:21 PM
thepickuptruck   nerf cavalry damage to structures pls! nobody ...   Sep 10 2009, 19:54 PM
God`Help`Me`Scream   Heros fucking suck, and no one has told me if its ...   Sep 10 2009, 20:19 PM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   hmm truck has a point, cav spam is deffo the most ...   Sep 10 2009, 20:29 PM
Thoon   Pikes in the base help, and for the RB closest to ...   Sep 10 2009, 20:48 PM
Forlong   I didn't realize he meant about them stacking,...   Sep 10 2009, 21:20 PM
Bumpin'Bob   Well ppl were talking about modifying the lvl at w...   Sep 11 2009, 00:55 AM
Esparado87   Well ppl were talking about modifying the lvl at ...   Sep 11 2009, 06:34 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   lol either way its good, reduce the effectiveness ...   Sep 11 2009, 12:49 PM
Elrohir´   wow duck and me actually agree on something :P   Sep 11 2009, 12:57 PM
Bumpin'Bob   lvl 5 b4 boro can use horn?? :P   Sep 12 2009, 00:26 AM
Thoon   Most units would already be level 2-4 by that time...   Sep 12 2009, 00:31 AM
Forlong   Or another option is to have it level 1-2 HoG stun...   Sep 12 2009, 01:52 AM
Bumpin'Bob   Could you possibly prescribe anything more compli...   Sep 14 2009, 00:41 AM
ConGrUenCy™   Just move boro's horn up a few lvls then, sho...   Sep 14 2009, 08:29 AM
Elrohir´   Could you possibly prescribe anything more compli...   Sep 12 2009, 09:02 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   Not so much that bad in 2.02 as boromirs isnt as m...   Sep 12 2009, 13:20 PM
Thoon   And HoG is only really usable early game. Putting ...   Sep 14 2009, 14:01 PM
thepickuptruck   i like the level 3/4 immunity to HoG idea i think ...   Sep 14 2009, 18:24 PM
Bumpin'Bob   Well i dislike that idea entirely^^^   Sep 14 2009, 21:29 PM
Forlong   I'm not sure that there's a good reason to...   Sep 14 2009, 21:43 PM
Bumpin'Bob   hmmm atm imo, maybe MotW OP?? Not sure, but they ...   Sep 15 2009, 04:12 AM
Geri   I like them costing 450 and I dont think its imba ...   Sep 15 2009, 09:15 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   Cos you don't even play Ger... Leave Boro...   Sep 15 2009, 11:41 AM
Elrohir´   ella tramples 5 wildmen battalions and an uruk w...   Sep 15 2009, 14:34 PM
thepickuptruck   lol were u lookin over ur bro's shoulder!?...   Sep 15 2009, 16:59 PM
Elrohir´   Well you had it won imo. You had units all around ...   Sep 15 2009, 19:59 PM
Dora   i agree that boro needs no change as the HoG on a ...   Sep 17 2009, 20:48 PM
God`Help`Me`Scream   Ya hero spam sux epic ballz, why not for a quick f...   Sep 18 2009, 14:28 PM
Esparado87   Ya hero spam sux epic ballz, why not for a quick ...   Sep 19 2009, 03:28 AM
Jace   btw wat happenned to all of the cah changes?   Sep 18 2009, 15:55 PM
'Fëanor   btw wat happenned to all of the cah changes? For...   Sep 18 2009, 16:46 PM
Bumpin'Bob   is it me or are dwarves in the new 2.0 patch rlly ...   Sep 18 2009, 22:26 PM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   its you -_-   Sep 19 2009, 01:21 AM
Thoon   Yeah, I wouldn't say they're weak. They ju...   Sep 19 2009, 01:41 AM
God`Help`Me`Scream   also a minor suggestion, Attack Trolls make Mordor...   Sep 19 2009, 03:56 AM
ConGrUenCy™   Get Rogash top get your Trolls back. :P   Sep 19 2009, 05:38 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   Black don't be stupid -_- Ideally if you let m...   Sep 19 2009, 12:57 PM
God`Help`Me`Scream   Black don't be stupid -_- Ideally if you let ...   Sep 21 2009, 16:48 PM
ConGrUenCy™   Also fuck you too! Lol :lol:   Sep 21 2009, 17:46 PM
thepickuptruck   lol duck it shouldn't work like that! i th...   Sep 19 2009, 13:26 PM
Bumpin'Bob   a timer sounds like a great idea tbh   Sep 21 2009, 00:18 AM
Forlong   A timer would probably be possible. My preference...   Sep 21 2009, 02:11 AM
Bumpin'Bob   cwoools   Sep 21 2009, 02:59 AM
thepickuptruck   ok well as i was saying about cavalry - unbuffed r...   Sep 24 2009, 16:38 PM
Folcred   no tht actually gives elf a chance in this mu..if ...   Sep 24 2009, 18:00 PM
thepickuptruck   well if a higher level of micro is the answer to a...   Sep 24 2009, 19:28 PM
Forlong   Cavalry trampling Thrall Masters has never been a ...   Sep 24 2009, 21:03 PM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   Ever heard of Cavalry raids Truck? Like they used ...   Sep 24 2009, 21:41 PM
Bumpin'Bob   Obviously truck is under the assumption that rotwk...   Sep 25 2009, 04:08 AM
thepickuptruck   hahaha!! yea but i've never seen a hor...   Sep 25 2009, 06:56 AM
thepickuptruck   another thang! (sry but i want this patch to b...   Sep 25 2009, 16:20 PM
Forlong   another thang! (sry but i want this patch to b...   Sep 25 2009, 22:08 PM
Turin-15   sounds good, i always wondered why the isen siege ...   Sep 26 2009, 03:27 AM
thepickuptruck   cooool :P i likey the half trolls start it can tur...   Sep 26 2009, 17:21 PM
biriarr   cooool :P i likey the half trolls start it can tu...   Oct 1 2009, 20:32 PM
'Fëanor   Isnt the Wolfriders trample a bit too crappy? I me...   Oct 9 2009, 20:26 PM
Forlong   Isnt the Wolfriders trample a bit too crappy? I me...   Oct 9 2009, 22:01 PM
ConGrUenCy™   They're balanced now. Agreed. They would be ...   Oct 10 2009, 07:31 AM
'Fëanor   Really ? :(   Oct 9 2009, 22:27 PM
Elrohir´   And yet they still cost 500 :P But I agree   Oct 10 2009, 09:42 AM
KuNg^Fu^QuAckErS   lol feanor i thought your micro was good? trample...   Oct 10 2009, 12:10 PM
'Fëanor   Yes but I thought their trample was better :/   Oct 10 2009, 12:37 PM
Elrohir´   I think hero stances are kinda fucked tbh. What a...   Oct 20 2009, 07:15 AM
Bumpin'Bob   I don't bother with those stats... so i could ...   Oct 20 2009, 17:25 PM
Elrohir´   Aggresive stance gives -43% armor and +10% damage....   Oct 20 2009, 20:34 PM
Bumpin'Bob   Aggresive stance gives -43% armor and +10% damage...   Oct 21 2009, 04:12 AM
thepickuptruck   is it only possible to gain passive kills with a h...   Oct 20 2009, 22:18 PM
Turin-15   I think hero stances are great tbh   Oct 20 2009, 23:50 PM
Forlong   Aggresive stance gives -43% armor and +10% damage....   Oct 21 2009, 02:06 AM
biriarr   lol   Oct 21 2009, 16:03 PM
morgothm26   A 2.1 Balance Discussion. Time to work. 1. Is the...   Oct 21 2009, 21:34 PM
Forlong   A 2.1 Balance Discussion. Time to work. 1. Is the...   Oct 21 2009, 22:18 PM
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