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What is the best race?

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# 1Glubglub Feb 5 2012, 22:03 PM
well I've been playing a couple games and have researched a bit, and people say the orks are the weakest. I am Ork and i love them, but it seems to be the commander ones seem more powerful. any clue in what is the best faction?

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# 2ratixleingod Feb 5 2012, 22:09 PM
without taking commanders into consideration:

Chaos is best, everything else is more or less the same.

Right now, it's more or less based on commander matchups. For example:
IG > Apoth (maybe), but atm FC > IG

Or

RA < Eldar, but LA is > Eldar



different commander matchups is what makes the difference, not the race. Save chaos, which has not only the best race atm, but also the best commander in the game (CL)
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# 3ratixleingod Feb 5 2012, 22:14 PM
the ork race actually isn't bad, btw.

Mek is still very good against IG and Nids

Knob is still pretty rape vs Eldar

The problem with orks is that the have a few units that are just a tad too good, and a units that are just a tad underpowered.

Shootas are a tad too good
Trukk is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too good
Weirdboy is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too good
Kommando drop is still OP in some MUs, although I know people will say I'm wrong on that, I'll still say that ability is absurd.
Stikks aren't that great in 1v1
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# 4Glubglub Feb 5 2012, 22:17 PM
Ah yeah, my ork use to get raped with that IG, I started thinking my race sucked. right now i am about 5 wins and 2 looses with the orks, so they are fairly good. Not sure if i should stick with these guys or move on to Chaos race, What do you think?

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# 5ratixleingod Feb 5 2012, 22:21 PM
QUOTE(Glubglub @ Feb 5 2012, 14:17 PM) *

Ah yeah, my ork use to get raped with that IG, I started thinking my race sucked. right now i am about 5 wins and 2 looses with the orks, so they are fairly good. Not sure if i should stick with these guys or move on to Chaos race, What do you think?


With the game being in the state it is, play whatever you think is the most fun. Of course I'll say that playing chaos is easier and may(not) increase your W/L. Just play with what race you have a feel for the best/most.

Editz: When I feel like winning, I play LA/LG. When I feel like having fun, I play FS/WL/Mek/Apoth/TM/PC

Or you could go random ; )
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# 6Glubglub Feb 5 2012, 22:51 PM
Ah, Thank you for the tip smile.gif I just lost a match lasting over 30 minutes with supreme commander, Way imbalanced.

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# 7PaPerBaG. Feb 6 2012, 08:51 AM
FC > all
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# 8ratixleingod Feb 6 2012, 10:04 AM
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FC > all


FC isnt the best right now, unless you look at him by himself. A tier 2 and 3 FC is arguably the best commander in the game atm. However, CL is the best commander, when you take his race into account.
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# 9^L3gion^ Feb 6 2012, 12:53 PM
Dont just play the race that will make u win most play whichever u want and find fun.
You wont get better by always playing with the advantage or by being totally carried by your hero/race.

Also forget about your stats, just a game.
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# 10PingviN Feb 6 2012, 14:43 PM
Chaos is da best. Simple as dat.
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# 11Balgeron Feb 6 2012, 14:53 PM
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Kommando drop is still OP in some MUs, although I know people will say I'm wrong on that, I'll still say that ability is absurd.



You are`t wrong on that. The ability should be moved to t3.

And Chaos is best - they have so many good combination of units - ranged builds with heavy infantry or even a walker support from Dreadnought, melee builds with Noise Marines - these are good with CL because of speed bonus from worship, they can rush t3 for cheap GUO (only 700/180 and beats every other super unit, even Terminators without LC, with worship it beats everything) - not to mention their nuke is probably second best(after IG one) in game, though its not that great against vehicles.

And in case everything else fails - just spam Plague Marines.

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# 12R4V4G3R 17 Feb 6 2012, 14:59 PM
guo beats every super unit. lawl
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# 13Acra Feb 6 2012, 15:25 PM
yeah it does, problem is, every other unit beats guo wink.gif
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# 14Johnny McGorry Feb 6 2012, 22:11 PM
chaos is the best, but if you main orks and want to switch I'd say use eldar for a while, I moved from Knob to WSE and when I came back to orks I was able to play to it's strengths more.
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# 15Caeltos Feb 6 2012, 22:25 PM
Orks is the best

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# 16gorays Feb 7 2012, 03:09 AM
Can't wait to see dawn of war 3's races .

"When you see dawn of war 3, you will go whoa, I promise" - THQ

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# 17texaneous Feb 7 2012, 04:20 AM
I think ratix is pretty bang on right now. Hero matchups are the big difference currently. The racial rosters are panning out fairly even, except chaos comes out on top because their entire t2 portion is AV.

However, when we add heros into the mix, chaos usually gets wtf pwned by FC and TM.

Anyway, as far as unwinnable matchups go, I think apo vs cl is pretty hopeless for the apo. PC vs FC also seems incredibly favored for the FC. The only other somewhat hopeless matchups can think of are internal, those being apo vs fc, and knob vs wb. And even then, there is always a glimmer of hope.

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# 18ratixleingod Feb 7 2012, 06:00 AM
QUOTE(texaneous @ Feb 6 2012, 20:20 PM) *

I think radix is pretty bang on right now.


QUOTE(texaneous @ Feb 6 2012, 20:20 PM) *

I think radix



QUOTE(texaneous @ Feb 6 2012, 20:20 PM) *

radix



WUT IS THIS? > : (((((((((((((((((((((
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# 19texaneous Feb 7 2012, 06:35 AM
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WUT IS THIS? > : (((((((((((((((((((((

fixed.

dear God...

I'm quite sorry.

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# 20ratixleingod Feb 7 2012, 08:14 AM
QUOTE(texaneous @ Feb 6 2012, 22:35 PM) *

fixed.

dear God...

I'm quite sorry.


It's quite allright, I'll have bC nerf FC to compensate ; )
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