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[READ] Ladder and Match Finding in CCG2

What Type of ladder Would you like to see?
59.52% (25)
Regular ladder, eg from top to bottom
40.48% (17)
"Starcraft ladder" different divisions then rank
What type of ranked matchfinding do you want?
42.86% (18)
Automatch plus custom set up for ranked games, like cnc
52.38% (22)
Only automatch. (this kills the ability to dodge like some people...)
4.76% (2)
only custum set up (basically how cnc is currently)

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# 1-LikeMike- Mar 9 2012, 03:00 AM
NOTE: all the above options are related to only RANKED games

Hey everyone
im very keen to know what you guys think should be implemented in the match finding and ladder system CCG2 should use

please comment on what you choose and give an reason to why you chose it
Thanks smile.gif

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# 2AgmLauncher Mar 9 2012, 03:59 AM
Hard to say. The different leagues are good but the divisions are stupid. Whats the point of being rank #1 of only 100 people?

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# 3-LikeMike- Mar 9 2012, 04:11 AM
Very true, i think i read somewhere that it allowes for a great sense of achivement for lower level plays as they can be be in the "top 10"
it really depends on how big this game is going to be. starcraft can get away with it because they have so many players

your opinion on the Only automatch?

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# 4Mooff Mar 9 2012, 12:15 PM
Automatch only (though for teamgames they better make sure the automatch system does work perfectly, if not clan/team should have a custom-ranked-game fallback).

As Ladder backbone one global Elo-value, but beeing visible on the frontside as different divisions. Top 10 Gold just sounds so much better than rank 45060.

In the lobby they should show the elo-points (and division ranking) though and maybe on the website an option to sort via elo-points instead of divisions.

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# 5methuselah Mar 9 2012, 18:46 PM
Automatch only and no divisions. To be honest, I don't think C&C is big enough for that to even be relevant. I hope that it gets big enough where we can have that portion of the debate that would be awesome.

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# 6Tomber Mar 9 2012, 23:28 PM
Only automatch. (this kills the ability to dodge like some people...)

and

Regular ladder, eg from top to bottom

This is C&C not SC2

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# 7I.AM.OP Mar 10 2012, 10:57 AM
All depends on the amount of players there are going to be. If it's going to be a relatively small player base than the Starcraft style of ladder will be completely useless. The only way I see the Starcraft style of ladder succeeding is if there is just a fuck ton of people playing, which is really hard to say...

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# 8-LikeMike- Mar 12 2012, 03:42 AM
That is true.
im surprised with the amount of people who have selected the "starCraft system" Tbh

Also its interesting to note that the majority of players want "Only Automatch" for ranked games
As i said before it prevents dodging and "one map" whoring that some people in TW and KW love to do...

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# 9Mooff Mar 12 2012, 18:30 PM
Well one does select different options based on what EA delivers.

If you have hope you assume:
a) Automatch doesn't suck donkey balls again
b) The whole online system isn't horrid -> a lot players are online
--> automatch only + sc2 system

If you assume however:
c) Automatch barely works, we need custom games to give the ladder any meaning (especially the teamladders)
d) online system is broken again -> not many players online
--> automatch + custom games + top to bottom ladder

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# 10-LikeMike- Mar 12 2012, 18:36 PM
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we need custom games to give the ladder any meaning

whys that?
atm on cnc3 at least the custom games are the bane of laddering due to the fact of people noobstomping andd one mapping

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# 11Mooff Mar 13 2012, 01:22 AM
In some EA-CnC games the automatch is so broken that it doesn't match you at all or doesn't match you under 5 minutes or doesn't match you with opponents of equal skill.
At that point the ladder becomes a joke unless the good players can arrange matches themselves. Or if they can't they have to use external ladders without automated reports.

And as said above that point becomes more pronounced when talking about team games. I think concerns about EA beeing able or wanting to get a team automatch system right are unfortunately very valid.

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# 12-LikeMike- Mar 13 2012, 08:48 AM
so essentially weneed a bug free automatch and then everyone will be happy?

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# 13AgmLauncher Mar 13 2012, 13:09 PM
Well, anyone that gets the purpose of gaming will be happy. Others will be content to follow a carrot on a stick for a few hours and then convince themselves the $60 was worth it.

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# 14-LikeMike- Mar 13 2012, 13:39 PM
AHAH ^^ that sir is a great comment

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# 15Star Ocean Mar 22 2012, 18:07 PM
One ladder with automatch but you can toggle which clan you belong too. Your clan gains points as you gain points.

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# 16Aoenian Apr 2 2012, 08:54 AM
I don't understand why so many vote for "automatch only". That sucks.

What about rematch etc?

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# 17OceanicDrought Apr 2 2012, 13:10 PM
QUOTE(Aoenian @ Apr 2 2012, 08:54 AM) *

I don't understand why so many vote for "automatch only". That sucks.

What about rematch etc?

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The game could ask you whether you want a rematch after the game. If both players agree, then they would be able to play a regular Bo3, meaning your first ladder game + 1-2 extra ranked games, depending on who wins the second map.

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# 18triumph Apr 2 2012, 17:56 PM
Ranked matches with a formal challenge quota would be nice to kill dodging. Don't fill the quota? Penalty! Otherwise go AM to reduce quota.

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# 19I.AM.OP Apr 4 2012, 04:08 AM
QUOTE(Aoenian @ Apr 2 2012, 18:54 PM) *

I don't understand why so many vote for "automatch only". That sucks.

What about rematch etc?

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So many voted for automatch only so people can't dodge *cough* *cough*

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# 20avilo Apr 5 2012, 05:41 AM
I'm not sure which is worse, gamespy or bnet2.0 LOL. It's much easier to chat on the terrible gamespy servers, u can even have chat rooms! Bnet 2.0 you're floating out in space alone lol.



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