We started here very well I think. AGM and more people which know what they are talking about gave their comments. We don't need those people here which thinks, lets better say "say" that, Tox/AF is balanced - they all just want the free-win. We needn't to discuss with them and I think in tis forum nobody from this group - I hope so - is able to write anything here. Sparky wrote a new list which was based on our list we have created. I really think we have collected some good ideas and we know what the hard problems in 1.04 are.
I talked to AGM-Launcher month's ago if there is a possibility to get a patch for ZH. I Pm'ed him, but nothing really happens. Last words were that he and MaddoX have time for ZH's next patch after BFME 2's patch is finished. Well I heard its done - so what can we do today ? Is there a chance ?
We also had a projekt with big names, but it stopped.
I think we should think again about 1.05. Balancing ZH is not easy and balancing ZH 100% out is NOt possible, but todays situation/balance is just terrible.
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AGM, MaddoX plz answer to this topic - I and more people want just the answer. A simple sentence what is the fact today will do the job. If it is not possible anyway we don't need to talk about anything considering balance/maps/bugs.
If there is a possibility I have an idea how we can go on.
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Here is the list - the guideline - if we get this chace :
Step 1 (General things)
- Make up a team for the project (maybe those people which can write here + good CW-players) - Fix BB-Bug, Gattling-Tank-Bug & Car-Bomb-Bug if possible (3 most imortant ones) - Discussion about Random : Should it stay as it is ? - if it is possible - Discusion about the maps - if EA accept maps, we should integrate some (3-5) new balanced maps
Step 2 (General Balance)
- Figure out how we define balance - Make clear what is OP & UP and make a list - all the thinks which are very important - Test out this important changes
Step 3 (the small things)
- After we have tested out what we did in Step 3 we should work on the minor changes - Test out minor changes
This is how I would like to handle this problem.
R4v3n
PS : I hope we get a chance - ZH is the best RTS-game alive.
Well if you want me to say yes, I will say yes. But obviously it's not in my hands to get that Beta running, so what can I (and almost everybody else) do? Ask this to the ones who CAN create a Beta and make them create one I for sure want them to.
If EA are as retarded to waste their time attempting to patch a 3year old game which is over run by idiots and the only decent competitive league is dead then they really really really are stupid.
Stop trying to patch a dead game, instead put your time into making a new cnc
This post has been edited by silent.: Apr 13 2006, 18:17 PM
Yes and maybe ZH will become active again. A lot of players have retired because they were tired of losing due to imbalance. And since there isn't any substitute for ZH, I'm sure a lot will come back when the game is decently playable.
Here's the "official word" on a potential patch for ZH.
As Aaron has stated, he wants to make a patch happen, but it's not his call. Resource allocation is determined by his supervisors.
However, it's inevitable that a new C&C will be announced and it would make sense for EA to start generating interest in C&C again by patching ZH. It would also show that EA is commited to long term support.
Frankly, there are a lot of reasons why it would make good business sense for EA to patch ZH and very few reasons why it wouldn't. My prediction is that there will be a patch.
Balance is more important than bugs for sure. Also, some of the bugs even help to balance the game. Imo, if you take away the carbomb bug, you should also take away one terrorcar at Tournament Desert.
I for sure want them to.
But I agree.
AGM and more people which know what they are talking about gave their comments.
We don't need those people here which thinks, lets better say "say" that, Tox/AF is balanced - they all just want the free-win.
We needn't to discuss with them and I think in tis forum nobody from this group - I hope so - is able to write anything here.
Sparky wrote a new list which was based on our list we have created.
I really think we have collected some good ideas and we know what the hard problems in 1.04 are.
I talked to AGM-Launcher month's ago if there is a possibility to get a patch for ZH.
I Pm'ed him, but nothing really happens.
Last words were that he and MaddoX have time for ZH's next patch after BFME 2's patch is finished.
Well I heard its done - so what can we do today ?
Is there a chance ?
We also had a projekt with big names, but it stopped.
I think we should think again about 1.05.
Balancing ZH is not easy and balancing ZH 100% out is NOt possible, but todays situation/balance is just terrible.
-------------------------
AGM, MaddoX plz answer to this topic - I and more people want just the answer.
A simple sentence what is the fact today will do the job.
If it is not possible anyway we don't need to talk about anything considering balance/maps/bugs.
If there is a possibility I have an idea how we can go on.
-------------------------
Here is the list - the guideline - if we get this chace :
Step 1 (General things)
- Make up a team for the project (maybe those people which can write here + good CW-players)
- Fix BB-Bug, Gattling-Tank-Bug & Car-Bomb-Bug if possible (3 most imortant ones)
- Discussion about Random : Should it stay as it is ? - if it is possible
- Discusion about the maps - if EA accept maps, we should integrate some (3-5) new balanced maps
Step 2 (General Balance)
- Figure out how we define balance
- Make clear what is OP & UP and make a list - all the thinks which are very important
- Test out this important changes
Step 3 (the small things)
- After we have tested out what we did in Step 3 we should work on the minor changes
- Test out minor changes
This is how I would like to handle this problem.
R4v3n
PS : I hope we get a chance - ZH is the best RTS-game alive.
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