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WB|Lama vs. FAR|crack1n

#11Pilbots  Jul 31 2005, 19:46 PM -
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QUOTE([Mn]Spawn @ Jul 31 2005, 07:58 PM)

- Built farm next to a warg lair?
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yeah it works well
#12Locke  Jul 31 2005, 20:12 PM -
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QUOTE(Mravenec @ Jul 31 2005, 02:10 PM)
And sending alone Aragorn near his outpost is suicide IMO, with Darkness and eye trolls owns him smile.gif.
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Yeah, I can criticize by pointing out he really had nothing but catapults up there (except for a Naz for a bit...), but you wouldn't know that in game. Plus, you won, so it doesn't matter so much.

QUOTE(Pilbots @ Jul 31 2005, 02:46 PM)
yeah it works well
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*shrug*
#13Chen  Jul 31 2005, 23:02 PM -
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QUOTE(Pilbots @ Jul 31 2005, 03:46 PM)
yeah it works well
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agreed
#14|elder|Kiltec  Jul 31 2005, 23:54 PM -
WB|Lama (Rohan) vs. FAR|crack1n (Mordor)

Match description:
Orcs are hunting for man-flesh at the once so peaceful Fords of Isen.
But the people of Rohan feels safe behind its walls, trusting in their brave rohirrim.
Trust can be deceiving sometimes...
BAM BAM BAM!
"CAVE TROLLS!"
The faces of the townsmen are filled with horror - how should they defend their homes against those monsters?


WB|Lama (Rohan)
BO: 2 rohirrim+Theoden, Legolas, Aragorn, fire, elves, horse-archers

smile.gif got farm at Mordor's side
smile.gif grabbed farm near warg pit, gives nice extra-boost.
smile.gif got rohirrim quickly
smile.gif stole a creep from Mordor
smile.gif nice harassing + creeping
sad.gif Theoden came pretty late
sad.gif allowed his trolls to weaken your rohirrim too much
thumb.gif opened gate to prevent trolls from knocking it down, baited trolls into base-> free XP for Legolas
sad.gif yeomen would've been better on the wall, didn't pit them in skirmish
smile.gif throughout the match nearly never forgot to use Legolas' train archers-ability
smile.gif good use of elendil
smile.gif perfectly timed Eowyn->Nazgul = *poof* biggrin.gif
thumb.gif Awesome job surviving his sieges / Aragorn and GCed Rohirrim.
mellow.gif could've been more agressive

Player summary:
Really awesome job to survive his massive sieges! I've really thought you wouldn't survive.
However, it took you too long to attack his OP where the catas came from.
Several times you were able to take down the Op at the bottom left, imho, you should've tried to attack the siege-OP.
You even might've been able to destroy it really early in the game when you still had your elves.
Don't forget to think ahead, Mordor's answer to fire is cata-spam, so try to find that OP b4 too many catas get out!
Anyway, very good job winning this match!

Player rating: 7/10

FAR|crack1n (Mordor)
BO: 2x pit, trolls, Nazgul, cata-spam

smile.gif took his farms down pretty fast
smile.gif good timing of sentry towers
smile.gif good creeping, maybe a little bit too slow bc you sent too many orcs to his side
smile.gif got trolls fast
mellow.gif 2nd troll cage should be build in base, replace 1 orc pit. You can spam trolls faster.
sad.gif don't feed Legolas /w trolls, next time don't send those 2 trolls into his base, there's a reason he opened the gate... wink.gif Once wall is breached stop wasting trolls on Legolas, you only help him to quickly level up.
smile.gif good massing of trolls and use of eye+TL to attack Aragorn but:
mad.gif don't also attack him with the nazgul. Your trolls were also affected by its swoop and that was the reason why Aragorn could escape alive. That could'Ve won you the match, ie killing Aragorn that early
sad.gif lost Nazgul, don't get too close to Rohan's castle /w the Nazgul. Once you get it, rohan almost always will have Legolas+Eowyn
thumb.gif good switch to cata-spam
mellow.gif reclaim mills at his side faster during your siege, took you a while to do that
mellow.gif you could've afforded 3x siege at the OP for faster cata-spam
sad.gif use industry on rank 2 or 3 building rather than on rank 1 buildings
sad.gif never attack fire-archers /w nazgul all on his own
thumb.gif very nice use of balrog, 1st summon killed all of his HA+Eomer, used fire-breath to kill half of his AotD. 2nd balrog killed his Legolas+Aragorn.
sad.gif slow with reviving the nazgul
sad.gif don't move catas back when they're attacked, so they can keep on firing

Player summary:
Don't waste too many trolls on his Legolas.
If you plan to spam trolls, it's faster if you get the 2nd cage inside your base before getting any OP.
Your switch to cata-spam came just in time, nice!
But your catas weren't protected enough most of the times and you made the mistake to try to retreat with them backwards.
Surround the catas /w orcs, this slows down his Rohirrim and the catas have more time to kill them.
Fire-archers could help to weaken Aragorn more. But it was also good to have trolls to protect the catas vs. Argaorn. Drummer trolls add a nice extra-oomph.
Don't move the catas when they're attacked and down move in the opposite direction so they have to turn around, when they're moving, they can't shoot.

Player rating: 6/10

Overall summary:
Very nice defense by Rohan, Rohan often is this thum.gif close from being defeated but manages to survive and win the match.
Overall entertaining match, though it drags a little bit in the end.

Overall rating: 7/10

Promoted to SILVER.
This post has been edited by |elder|Kiltec: Jul 31 2005, 23:55 PM
#15Elven111  Aug 1 2005, 17:54 PM -
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QUOTE
Built farm next to a warg lair?


That's a pro b/c it takes wargs a while to kill the farm and Rohan can certainly use the eco boost. U just have to make sure they don't hit the farm when its at 0% when u 1st start bldg or u just wasted 200.
#16-crackin_ty  Aug 2 2005, 07:24 AM -
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thks4review
#17Erbgorre  Aug 2 2005, 08:34 AM -
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QUOTE(Elven @ Aug 1 2005, 06:54 PM)
That's a pro b/c it takes wargs a while to kill the farm and Rohan can certainly use the eco boost.  U just have to make sure they don't hit the farm when its at 0% when u 1st start bldg or u just wasted 200.
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yeh its pretty ownage strat on fords especially... i always wondered why ive only seen it done from victoire up to now. but i tested it myself with a mate and i realized that u have to be really skilled in doing it to really get an advantage out of it. in my games it almost slowed me down more then him cause then i came too late to harass his econ cause sometimes u have to wait till wargs run behind their lair and dont block the spot and u have to be careful they dont kill ur peasants or merry etc. but if u train it its friggin effective really cause the opponent cant even attack them with startunits cause when he does the wargs let off of the farm and attack the units wacko.gif and attacking a farm with crossbows is rather nuts imo rolleyes.gif
#18Donwelshy  Aug 2 2005, 10:44 AM -
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ill watch it now see wot all the fuss is about
#19DwelF^  Aug 4 2005, 12:48 PM -
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QUOTE(Donwelshy @ Aug 2 2005, 12:44 PM)
ill watch it now see wot all the fuss is about
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its also a very good way to creap with your merry, wargs focused on farms, merry kills wargs, get some peasants and bye bye lair
#20min3mat  Aug 4 2005, 22:36 PM -
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^^ very cool!
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