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Wonder(Mordor) vs Tucke(Gondor)

#1WonderTruls  Feb 14 2007, 17:22 PM -
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an amazing Mordor vs Gondor, with lots of huge battles, nice gtw and troll micro and some cool summons biggrin.gif

Plz review anyone smile.gif
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Review by: TheFatOFTheLanD
Starting Possitions
Mordor / FoD}Snowbunny – West
Gondor / GRIM|PepeLaPu – East

Overview

The Best Gondor mordor game I have seen in a long time, the very nature of this match up means that some level of camping is inevitable, but both players did there best to harass and keep up constant pressure. Some good battles throughout the game with many tide turning points which were sometimes not taken advantage of but overall gg, well played guys.

Mordor / FoD}Snowbunny

You did well at the start to only lose one mill despite sending your starting two orcs to harass, soldiers were easily dealt with which meant that you could go on to creep. When creeping try and use Gollum to bait wargs away form pit so orcs can attack it. It was very good how you saved to orcs from pippin and used them to spy the Gondor base which meant you knew exactly what he was planning to do in there an be ready for it. Your trolls came out fast and allowed you to steel a creep, getting you 3/6 creeps. After his gandy came out you saw you were low on trolls so went for a double cage which was a good idea, and followed this quickly with siege. Generally your ability to deal with Gandalf was very good, I think you killed him 4 times thumb.gif . His first attack on your base came as a bit of a surprise it seemed but you got back to defend well, waiting for eye to recharge before going in, however you lost a lot of trolls in this attack to his treb fire. You were better prepared for the next attack, having Gollum in the middle to spy, soon after this you got the WK out and this was the turning point of the game imo. At this stage of the game you really need to think about getting orc archers, if Gondor had used eagles better you would have lost most of your army and been put on to the back foot, but luckily Gondor was too busy trying to micro his army so forgot about them. I don’t think you meant to do this but when you were getting orc archers you put some in the slaughter house 0wn3d.gif . Towards the end you had amassed many more pp’s than him and managed to get the Balrog, however your Balrog micro needs some improvement with its summoning placement and then attack route in base, however you did manage to kill Gandalf just as he re-spawned laugh.gif and took out the key unit producing buildings at which point it was pretty much gg, but Gondor held on and you did well not to simply throw troops at him and give him pp’s for AOD. WP.


Mistakes / Things to improve

• Earlier orc archers
• When attacking his army, try and have your trolls attack different things
• Take care with catapults try not to have them too close together to have 2+ taken out by 1 treb fire.

Gondor / GRIM|PepeLaPu

At the start I think you should have forgot about Gollum and focussed on getting the mill down asap, also when he brought his orcs try and make sure again that soldiers are attacking the orcs and not Gollum, could have possibly ranked them up this way. You did good at the beginning to defend farms from orcs and then go and spy the middle, however imo you should have sent your first set of knight to steal this creep and then take out his lumber mills. The money you would have stopped him getting from the creep would have offset the extra time his mills were up and you would have got more pp’s. You assessed the situation and went for an early Gandalf which was a good idea, and straight away managed to kill 2 trolls before the drummer appeared. This meant he was very short of trolls and allowed you to take complete map control. However you made a sill mistake, attacking a tower and retreated to late losing a battalion of horses 0wn3d.gif . I was very pleased to see you go trebs before stoneworks this time and meant you could take the fight mordor and although you lost your army you did considerable damage to him. What let you down here was that you had spare cp but were very slow to rebuild, you needed to have a constant stream of trebs and archers to keep the pressure on mordor. Another thing which really let you down was losing gandy at times, I understand there will have been heal lag but you kept trying lightning things and gandy would die, I would advise you just to not use LS when it is not your host. Your first eagles summons could have done so much more damage and really turned the game in your favour, instead you forgot about them and tried to attack with your army, but lost much of it in the process. Near the end you did well with your attack to push him back, but I think you need to take your time more to set yourself up since when he came to attack you you were not ready, again you summoned eagles and they just sat there sad.gif when Balrog came you were very unlucky to have gandy come out and lose him, after he had taken down your unit producing buildings it was gg but WP

Mistakes / Things to improve

• Try and have a more organised attack force, split your trebs and units up to make it more difficult for him to micro his trolls to attack.
• Be more on the ball at replacing your army
• DON’T USE LS
• Pippin is very useful to spy key points to help you plan your attack / defence.


Overall rating: 7
Silver and ROTW contender
This post has been edited by TheFatOFTheLanD: Mar 7 2007, 18:15 PM
#2THUGZ  Feb 14 2007, 17:26 PM -
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Every game Wonder wins is amazing i believe.
This post has been edited by ThuGz: Feb 14 2007, 17:26 PM
#3FlashJack  Feb 14 2007, 17:27 PM -
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wtf is wonder doing in FoD???
#4esa|TurtleTucke  Feb 14 2007, 17:29 PM -
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Jeez...i really have to work on my gondor.....
I am always so screwed when gondor gets too many trolls..
#5DaZiVaToR  Feb 14 2007, 17:38 PM -
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tucke wonder sucks how u lose omgggggggggg
#6Grenness  Feb 14 2007, 17:41 PM -
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wonder is a very good player tongue.gif
#7esa|TurtleTucke  Feb 14 2007, 17:45 PM -
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Daz some ppl in this community know how to play mordor tongue.gif
#8WonderTruls  Feb 14 2007, 18:20 PM -
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QUOTE(ThuGz @ Feb 14 2007, 06:26 PM) *

Every game Wonder wins is amazing i believe.

no I can also have bad days, but this game is probably the best mordor vs gondor Ive ever played smile.gif

QUOTE(AniMatoR @ Feb 14 2007, 06:27 PM) *

wtf is wonder doing in FoD???

Im helping Fate,Gamroth and sjosty to win, havent seen u online for days btw sleep.gif

QUOTE(esa|TurtleTucke @ Feb 14 2007, 06:29 PM) *

Jeez...i really have to work on my gondor.....
I am always so screwed when gondor gets too many trolls..

hmm, gondor should end mordor before mass trolls though tongue.gif

QUOTE(DaZiVaToR @ Feb 14 2007, 06:38 PM) *

tucke wonder sucks how u lose omgggggggggg

Daz, reported for trolling/flaming dry.gif

QUOTE(Grenness @ Feb 14 2007, 06:41 PM) *

wonder is a very good player tongue.gif

w00t.gif y act sarcastic ...

QUOTE(esa|TurtleTucke @ Feb 14 2007, 06:45 PM) *

Daz some ppl in this community know how to play mordor tongue.gif

bowdown.gif gg Daz w00t.gif
#9esa|TurtleTucke  Feb 14 2007, 19:47 PM -
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Btw Woner...u said "SW....pro...." ingame.
I actually went 3 knights-->gandi-->ups-->comos+far-->trebs--->4k floating-->SW tongue.gif
So pls dont think i am a camper...It's just the problem with the 10000trolls..if i loose gandi once and i dont have anyhing to stop those trolls its gg. So i see no reason why i shouldnt build a SW in a game like this..
#10THUGZ  Feb 14 2007, 20:03 PM -
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SW are only lame against FoL imo.
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