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Battle for Middle Earth

LNL vs LtB

#1cacadoo  Dec 10 2005, 15:45 PM -
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mor/roh (LtB) vs mor/mor (LNL)

really entertaining game, dbl mor should beat mor/rohan easily bc of super-orc power early game

we somehow managed to survive that but then next problem wacko.gif

fire orcs with full leadership that early are really a problem

i thought we were dead, but GC made our day biggrin.gif

really should be reviewed soon as possible bc it is really entertaining (i know i repeat myself)
#2LVCIAN  Dec 10 2005, 17:12 PM -
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Ill review smile.gif Try to watch gollum very closely this go round hehe. wacko.gif
#3Drive^  Dec 10 2005, 18:33 PM -
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lol @ dble mordor should pwn mordor/rohan...., edit for noobs, mordor/rohan should never ever lose vs mordor/mordor
This post has been edited by Drive^: Dec 10 2005, 18:39 PM
#4OnFiRe  Dec 10 2005, 18:36 PM -
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but we are l33t wink.gif lol
#5D3M0XX  Dec 10 2005, 19:00 PM -
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QUOTE(Drive^ @ Dec 10 2005, 07:33 PM) *

lol @ dble mordor should pwn mordor/rohan...., edit for noobs, mordor/rohan should never ever lose vs mordor/mordor

I totally agree, rohan/mordor is better -> more leadership. No playing that tbh, think we did well smilie_bleh.gif
#6LVCIAN  Dec 10 2005, 19:31 PM -
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Team 1: [LNL]Iocoluky/D3MOXX(Mordor/Mordor)

Team 2: ]LtB|OnFire/cacadoo(Rohan/Mordor)


Map: Anorien


Team 1: [LNL]Iocoluky/D3MOXX(Mordor/Mordor)

Starting BO: 1 pit ea/2 mills ea

Strat: orc spam>trolls>naz>fire and banner upgrades>drummer trolls>WK>catas

smile.gif nice job slowing down Theo leveling up by troll taking out warg creep near rohan castle/not allowing him to have 1 of the troll lairs/forcing cacadoo's naz to finish it off instead
smile.gif used both gollums to harass mills
smile.gif nice early troll micro at rohan castle forcing him to put up a couple of towers
smile.gif added both WK's and drummer trolls for massive LD bonus
smile.gif Took out middle outpost when opponent had it and then took it back a couple times when u lost it.
smile.gif Nice overall PP usage

sad.gif late adding extra orc pits for early map control: forced to be too defensive early on because of this
sad.gif needed cata support when u first went to seige with drummers/firearchers/naz
wacko.gif lost 3 naz in big battle


Team 2: ]LtB|OnFire/cacadoo(Rohan/Mordor)

Starting BO: Rohan:2 farms in/1 out Mordor:1 pit/3 mills

Strat: 3 pit orc spam/peasant spam>rohirrim>Theo>Naz>HA's>Fellowship>catas

smile.gif good early harass with orcs/peasants/out pitted 2 mordors early game(3 pits)
smile.gif defended farms/mills very well
smile.gif gollum got mordor orc pit at 0% thum.gif
smile.gif Great naz/hero micro only lost naz once i think and eomer once
smile.gif Great teamwork overall:complimented eachother well i thought
smile.gif Level 10 eowyn/aragon and Theo by end of game WTF.gif
smile.gif Good PP usage overall


sad.gif lost some peasants to troll lair
sad.gif lost eomer/naz once ea

Summary: Great game. Dual Mordor needed a better orc spam early on to obtain MC and keep opponents off their mills. Forced to be too defensive early on. Nice fast fire upgrades and drummer trolls tho allowed them to fight back and give Mordor/Rohan combo a good fight. However GC gave dual mordor a tough time, and when Rohan micros well and keeps heros alive gaining many PP's in process its hard to overcome. AOTD wiped out dual Mordors armies twice. Pretty much GG from then on. Nice job to both teams very entertaining match.

Team 1: [LNL]Iocoluky/D3MOXX(Mordor/Mordor): 6/10

Team 2: ]LtB|OnFire/cacadoo(Rohan/Mordor): 7/10

Rating: 7/10

Replay Promoted To Silver: ROTW Contender
This post has been edited by LVCIAN: Dec 17 2005, 22:55 PM
#7cacadoo  Dec 10 2005, 21:33 PM -
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QUOTE(Drive^ @ Dec 10 2005, 07:33 PM) *

lol @ dble mordor should pwn mordor/rohan...., edit for noobs, mordor/rohan should never ever lose vs mordor/mordor


not true, explanation follows

QUOTE(D3M0XX @ Dec 10 2005, 08:00 PM) *

I totally agree, rohan/mordor is better -> more leadership. No playing that tbh, think we did well smilie_bleh.gif


i didnt mean you did bad (you should know that bc i thought we lost at one point)

you just made some strategical mistakes costing you the game imo biggrin.gif

you know i wub.gif you demoxx

explanation why mor/mor >> mor/roh and why you lost that game

dbl mor gets about 5 orcpits in total --> own mordors mills + force towers up very early dbl land spam makes the rest

you get all the warg creeps too nazgul comes and takes the troll creeps

soon as first troll is out which is mostly at the time when theo + horses are out rohan cant help you much for some time, then lego comes but 3 + trolls kill him fast eowyn cant be out of base bc she gets raped by trolls

then the one that made trolls gets drummers + middle for catapult spam and witchking

other one gets an army of fireorcs and you have full leadership, like permanent eye and land advantage you go kill mordor base (if it doesnt even get owned by early orcspam allready

not to talk about darkness

why you lost the game:

to less orcs you didnt get my mills --> i had naz about same time --> have been able to get a troll lair for theo

pp usage:

not spammed enough lands, lost track of some, didnt notice onfire went anduril --> could have spammed even more land or at least cost him 3 points for army so you perhaps get balrog and can kill rohan base easily

then you never have been able to put up a good cataspam so rohan had an easy time just trampling those fire orcs (even then its hard bc of 6 nazgul)

darkness was too late, you should have gotten it earlier (again bc of too less orcs)

gc is a killer but you can prevent it with good orcspam + trolls + land usage (you lost track of some of your lands sometimes)

too sum it up:

early orc usage/strategy just wasnt perfect --> gave us a chance --> we took it

no way roh/mor can win it if played perfectly imo from random games

late game ofcourse mor/rohan is like unbeatable but you shouldnt let it come to that point

in pick army games it could be different bc peasants help to defend + more peasants, never tried it

so at least it is balanced but in my eyes mor/mor > mor/roh, orc usage is key pirate.gif
This post has been edited by cacadoo: Dec 10 2005, 21:35 PM
#8OnFiRe  Dec 10 2005, 21:57 PM -
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yes mor/mor should beat rohan /mor

Double land

Double eye

Even tho i had sun wen u cast darkness, suns recharge time is ALOT slower than darkness, so ure darkness gradually cathes up to the point that wen i cast sun, u can immdetly cover it up with darkness (recharge times bleh). If u get wat i mean.

Massive harrasment = late mordor naz and rohan units

When u hav archers with eye, WK, Land, Drummer, Darkness= Pwns naz, heros and horse.
This post has been edited by OnFiRe: Dec 10 2005, 21:58 PM
#9AsHs  Dec 11 2005, 12:02 PM -
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not many ppl abuse the double land imo they should.
#10D3M0XX  Dec 11 2005, 12:38 PM -
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ah well, it was a nice game and wub.gif u all biggrin.gif
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