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HFD|robbe Vs GRlM|ars3n4L

#1LikeToAbuse  Feb 9 2007, 18:07 PM -
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Omg this game was crazy from beginning till end...He killed one of my mills and i rushed his base to keep him busy for a while. Some pikes+zerks spam in mid game and big combos/hero fights in late game...And the end was definitely the closest end i ever had !!! Really very good work from gerrard how he survived the whole game and fought back all the time even with rain/ballistas and lurtz/saro LD!! Just watch this game and enjoy it !!!!
PS:There was some lag for Gerrard and me but i think the entertainment of this replay gets alot of higher coz of this lag:P
wp mate !

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Review by: Daemon

Starting positions:
HFD|robbe - West
GRIM|ars3n4l - East

Overview:

A good start by both players until Rohan opens the castle gates to let some impending Rohirim out and two passing uruks batallions take the opportunity to nip into the castle to cause mayhem for 15 minutes and distract Rohan. From then on Isengard presses it's advantage but Rohan begins a spirited fightback with hit and run raids on Isengards camp before building up a force capable of finally confronting Isengard toe-to-toe. Then, just as you think the pendulum has swung you see the closest finish you will ever see in a game with Rohan fighting to take the Isengard campafter losing their own castle to the Balrog. Just as Rohan destroys the Isengard camp and has 5022 resources Isengard destroys the last Rohan outpost. Rohan lost this game by 22 resources and about 5 seconds.

Normally I would rate this a definite solid 7 and a Silver replay, definite RotW contender. Because this replay is so entertaining I am also going to put it up for a Gold poll.


HFD|robbe

A good start, fast extra mill workers, aggressive defence and a quick expansion. You took the opportunity to raid the Rohan castle and cause trouble and distraction and it worked but somehow you just failed to press your advantage. Using land was a mistake but it was possibly a gamble worth taking at that stage in the game. Rohan had just used the elven allies summons so they had poured a lot of PP's into not getting EW and using TL was a calculated risk. Using it the second time was just a plain mistake.

Micro was OK, nothing particularly special. You should trample with the wargs in line formation for the armour bonus and you should probably hold Saruman back a bit more because he did tend to wander about infront of the troops a bit. Your balrog micro wasn't perfect but it did the job, luckily Rohan castles are easier than Gondor one's.

Points for Improvement
  • Trample in line formation with wargs.
  • Somtimes weren't producing reinforcement troops whilst your existing army was in battle. This delays the rearming and wastes some time.
  • Consider using carnage a bit more after a pin, especially of Theoden.
GRIM|ars3n4l

A good start, some aggressive harassment with peasants and you even managed to get a mill down. I think it was just a bit of bad luck that led you to open the castle door to let the impending Rohirim out quickly just as two uruks batallions were passing. You probably should have made some peasants faster to take the uruks instead of spending 15 minutes diverting your Rohirim into and out of the castle.

You managed to lose a few Rohirim needlesly. One bat was killed by wargs at the second last creep and when you first G.C.'ed and charged at the ballista there was room enough to go around the side and back of the pike formations instead of straight through them. You also lost Rohirim in another charge when you had Heal recharged and could have saved them. You can also attack when the uruks are crossing the ford because the AI pathing tends to put the ballistas on an exposed flank and it is easier to attack them unless Isen is really on the ball.

You didn't use the EW very much when attacking the Isen camp. You had some land just outside the Isen camp but you always attacked standing just next to it instead of sitting right on it. Given that the extra armour bonus would have allowed more of your troops to survive and therefore do a bit more damage, those extra few seconds might have turned a loss here into a win.

Points for Improvement
  • Use the EW to attack from if it is available.
  • Heroes had a tendency to go running off at the enemy and almost out of leadership range.
  • Don't be so keen to charge Rohirim straight into pikes when there are openings on the flanks.
Overall Rating: 8
This post has been edited by OnFiRe: Feb 19 2007, 01:59 AM
#2Gerrard  Feb 9 2007, 18:30 PM -
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yea i cant stop thinking about this game

FUCK ME

the end was WTF, the craziest game i have ever played.

yea i managed 2 hold u off against all odds, and in the end i thought i would win..but, well go watch


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#3FarMeR`  Feb 9 2007, 22:31 PM -
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will do when i get my comp back post-13661-1143531603.gif
#4tomac  Feb 9 2007, 22:43 PM -
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I am gonna watch this for sure. Rohan - Isen is the greatest MU to see biggrin.gif
#5whateverusay  Feb 10 2007, 14:24 PM -
WTF.gif most entertaining game I´ve ever seen
#6Gerrard  Feb 10 2007, 16:02 PM -
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QUOTE(Amroth @ Feb 10 2007, 02:24 PM) *

WTF.gif most entertaining game I´ve ever seen


dam right

Ive never felt so strange after a game... wacko.gif

the crazy thing was, we basically both had 1 outpost each, he summoned rog at mine, but i had an op army, so... i was on like 4700 so i sold ALL of my farms on the map 2 get 5000 for the main base, but i was a split second 2 slow FFS, just watch as his rog does fire on my op
This post has been edited by G3RRARD: Feb 10 2007, 16:42 PM
#7Veermarck  Feb 10 2007, 17:17 PM -
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wierd game.. pretty entertaining but some stuff like Gc horsed charging straight into the pikes I didnt understand.
#8FlashJack  Feb 10 2007, 17:22 PM -
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cant believe the end of this game

gerr tbh u should have seen in his base that he had an army and then chased it with aod ... cos u didnt he got ur top camp and that rly sucked 4 u ..

tbh u should have won, u was just so unlucky 2 not buy the castle at the end

overall a really really entertaining game .. and apart from ur horse micro (running into pikes, killing balistas by running through combos and not around them) this game u played rly good smile.gif i guess it was rly laggy huh laugh.gif
#9Gerrard  Feb 10 2007, 17:57 PM -
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do none of u understand that the ballistats HAD 2 be killed even if it meant loosing horses 2 pikes, they were owning my archers, i killed all the ballistats by glory charging my rohirrem, yes they died, but if i didnt my whole army would of.

come on its obvious, and yes a few micro flaws, but u try playing rohan vs isen on some1 elses host
#10esa|TurtleTucke  Feb 10 2007, 18:49 PM -
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agreed...loosing his rohirrim made him survive for a long time...Just watched it and really nice Wiz how you kept him busy with ur combos/elves all the time.
And i mean the reason u got AOD was that u killed his ballistas with pro combo micro and GC all the time coz rohan combos/elves+ara+theo LD > Isens army (without ballistats).
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