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[R] Gamroth vs Wegway

#21Madow  Dec 28 2006, 14:09 PM -
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B2P|Wegway`s Isengard vs |GoD|G4MR0TH's Isengard
on Fords of Isen


B2P|Wegway` - Isengard

BO: pit, uruk, 2 mills
PP: warchant, industry, rain

+ good harassment with uruks early on, made up for the mistake of baserushing
+ won the race to upgrades
+ owned opponents second baseraid with fast rain
+ used wargs and forced opponent to mix with pikes, which got owned by uruks

- don't build your pit in front, it will be taken down first in blade/zerker rushes
- pit rushed, should have went for mills
- creeping instead of harassing
- used upped units to harass, don't do that but finish the game on the spot. especially if
have 6 FU uruks running around the map, don't go and creep but go and win
- used warchant in rain

Comments: It looks like you don't master the basics of this matchup. First off, baserushing, you have to know that doing this gives your opponent an economic advantage, because while he is harrasing your mills, his are save and are making $$. You can take down his pit but it will be rebuilded in no-time. Allthough, rhere is one way to take a small advantage out of destroying his pit, and that is that you will have entry to berzerkers earlier, so i say trow a zerker rush at him but you did nothing alike.
Second, I think you have hear this before: Isen mirrors are a race to upgrades. The reason for that is because when you have them you can start doing these raids on the opponents base. Mapcontroll doesn't mean anything anymore after that moment when you start raiding the opponents castle. If you still feel like taking the map, train some more berzerkers, they are cheap and fast, use them while you are raiding his base when he won't be watching his mills.
At the end it still won. I think you deserved it because Gamroth's baseraids weren't effective and you also did a good job defending, should also comment you on that.

Individual rating: 5


|GoD|G4MR0TH - Isengard

BO: pit, uruk, 2 mills
PP: warchant, industry, rain

+ double chant took down both enemy's mills early
+ took mapcontroll with berzerkers,
+ good baseraid with first upgraded units

- don't build your pit in front, it will be taken down first in blade/zerker rushes
- idle uruks on the map, always have them hitting mills
- poorly executed berzerker rush, focus on taking down the pit or armory
and then continue harassing the mills

Comments: I can see that you know the basics of this matchup well. You harassed mills, you did zerker rushes on his base, and raided him with upgrades while you took mapcontroll with berzerkers. But still, you lost the game. This was not because your opponent was such a great player but because you just had some errors in executing the strats. Mainly micro errors. I know that when you are raiding his base, it is tempting to just trow all those strong upgraded units in there and watch how they destroy everything but it is not that simple. In advance, wait for WC, get it on 3 or 4 FU units and attack the base from different angles. All units will destroy a tower and then 1 attacks pit and others go for furnaces, and when there is a chunk out of his base go for his citadel, not earlier. Goodluck in future mirrors.

Individual rating: 5

Game comments: The simpliest matchup in the game can get so complicated sometimes, when the early parts of the game contain errors like this. Segway choosed to use his upgraded army defensively and gave Gamroth quite some problems with breaking his castle. When Gam failled doing damage Seg took his chance and took advantage with a army mixure with wargs and uruks. Gam started loosing fights and Seg kept getting stronger. The game ended with Segway seiging with saruman and four FU combo's.

Entertainment rating: 5
Overall rating: 5
This post has been edited by Madow: Dec 28 2006, 18:14 PM
#22Gamroth  Dec 28 2006, 14:15 PM -
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Cheers Madow, i like these comments u made some good points, thx for the help happy.gif
#23Madow  Dec 28 2006, 14:17 PM -
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I really know how it was in your shoes, i have had isen mirrors where i just can't break the enemy but it is important to "think" at that moment smile.gif
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