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[R] AnAgA (isen) vs Hellworm rank 61(mordor)

#1AnAgA  Jan 1 2006, 09:52 AM -
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In this game vs Hellworm, he did 4 major mistakes: 1: lost orcs to cave trolls. 2: didnt tower up when uruk hai were on the way to the orc pit. 3: should have rushed my mills. and 4: didnt tower up all towers when have seen my 4 bezerkers with 2 beaten uruk hai.
In a map like this a mordor player needs to build a troll cage to prevent bez rush with uruk hai forge blades + keep rushing isen mills + kill as much lairs as possible for darkness. True that mordor is OPED, but that does not mean that if mordor does 1 mistake vs other armies it still can win. It just gives the other armies a better chance of wining.[attachmentid=58453]
This post has been edited by KlunG^: Jan 1 2006, 11:21 AM
#2HeAvEnN  Jan 1 2006, 10:09 AM -
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Plz keep this clean. Be nice - KlunG^
This post has been edited by KlunG^: Jan 1 2006, 11:39 AM
#3Falcon^  Jan 1 2006, 10:53 AM -
He is an ESL player and in the ESl i also watched a few replays of him and i dont think they were too good...but i wouldnt use the word "noob", because a noob is a beginner...
#4KlunG  Jan 1 2006, 11:21 AM -
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#5KlunG  Jan 1 2006, 12:00 PM -
Map: Fangorn Forest
AnAgA vs Hellworm
Isengard vs mordor



AnAgA

Isengard


Starting BO: Pit + Uruk --> mills

Initial strat: Early urukspam for MC --> Beserker spam + Upgrades


+ Ur early uruk spam got u good MC
+ Took out his first orc pit cuz of him not building towers in time thumb.gif
+ Noticed his labourer harrasment and stopped it pretty fast
+ Taking out his gollum who was sneaking at one of ur builspots
+ Excellent harrasment of his mills and mill grabbage during the whole game
+ Good combo of zerkers and FB uruks during ur first raid, which made u take out several towers with zerkers while the uruks took the middle

Hellworm


Mordor


Starting BO: Pit + gollum --> mills

Initial strat: Dual pit spam --> nazguhl?


+ Sneaked ur gollum to one of his build spot at the base
+ Tried labourer harrasing

- Lost BOTH ur starting orcs to a troll, which is imo really bad and cost u a lot!
- Didnt harras his mills/keep ur own mills. Made him get the MC which cost u the game
- Built towers too late during his first raid
- When u saw zerkers u shud just spam towers like crazy cuz the isen is prolly attempting to cita rush u then

Game summary:

This is a FoD mirror game which shows u how important it is to have more mills than the enemy to win. AnAgAs early uruk spam gave him good MC and he claimed lots of mills. This led him to have a huge economic advante also cuz Hellworm didnt harass at all with his orcs and even lost some to trolls. It was just a matter of time before AnAgA wud do a zerker/FB uruks rush and the game ended really fast.

Game ratings:

AnAgA: 5/10
Hellworm: 3/10

Game rating: 3/10

Was almost an ownage rep imo
This post has been edited by KlunG^: Jan 1 2006, 12:01 PM
#6Falcon^  Jan 1 2006, 13:34 PM -
But the rating is also about skill Klung...and i think its very good if u beat a Mordor on Fangorn with Isen and u need much skill, also if he is rank 61...so maybe 3 a bit low, dont u think so? eyebrow.gif Because why AnAgA gets only 5, if he has only pros...? wacko.gif
This post has been edited by EcHnAtOnX: Jan 1 2006, 13:35 PM
#7Moser  Jan 1 2006, 13:46 PM -
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btw lol @ ESL if you look at the screenshots of the matches their 80% mordor mirrors, cause everyone abuses Mordors oPness.
#8KlunG  Jan 1 2006, 14:26 PM -
QUOTE(EcHnAtOnX @ Jan 1 2006, 02:34 PM) *

But the rating is also about skill Klung...and i think its very good if u beat a Mordor on Fangorn with Isen and u need much skill, also if he is rank 61...so maybe 3 a bit low, dont u think so? eyebrow.gif Because why AnAgA gets only 5, if he has only pros...? wacko.gif


Cuz he didnt do anything exceptional i the match. He did just what every isen has to do vs mordor. Therefore he gets a 5 in this match. It doesnt mean he played bad at all. But he didnt do anything new and innovative to get a higher rating. He is a good player indeed but this match wasnt that difficult for him tbh
#9Falcon^  Jan 1 2006, 15:25 PM -
But how he should do something new and innovative, if there is no other way to win against Mordor? Plz explain this...i mean u dont need to try new things, if older things work perfectly...all in all i think the ratings are a bit low in general and some replays, which are really **** get for exmaple 5 points...i think i will never understand it. wacko.gif

@Moser: I dont play often Mordor in ESL...i played 12 matches and i used Mordor only one time...if the enemy choses Mordor i rather take Gondor, because Mordor-Mirrors are to much depending on luck imo. wink.gif Not only, but also...
#10Moser  Jan 1 2006, 15:47 PM -
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thats right but imo not only the mordor abusing sucks. everything about the esl is just bs. Like both have to report a replay and a screenshot. and so on.

@player rating, you 're right echantox these days some uber pros get a 6 and some complete noobs get a 4.

And a play without any mistakes where somone did everything right without any new stuff should get a 7 at least.
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