Battle for Middle Earth

a gon vs isen vs mate of mine eraserr...
(you know him from our gon vs mor silver rep)
isen is his main army so we decided to go to fangorn forest to bring some justice in this matchup...
dunno why, maybe this map cripples me a little bit...
after all, my hs rush pretty much failed... i lost 2 horses during the game, which NEVER happens to me, normally

after all a pretty nice match with some huge battles...
maybe any rr could point some things out to isen, because im an uberisennup and dunno what my mate could have done better...

bump

respect to beat isen on fangorn...thats really a hard job

so you will take a look mate?

I will review.

Congratulations, you will be my record breaking 76th revew this month. Have a banana.

lol damn that´s much.. Daemonette is best..u get a banana too..

eraserr (Isengard)
Build Order: Pit + Uruks, Mills, Crossbows, Pikes, Furnaces, Armoury, Upgrades, Lurtz, Siege Works, Ladder, Rams, Beserkers, Outposts, Saruman, Wargs
PP: Warchant, Tortured Land, Palantir, Fuel the Fires

Extra mill workers.
Crossbow formations.
Crept with Lurtz, some good general creeping.

No harassment of Gondor economy.
Waited too long to get outpost and then took it without the forces to defend it.
No towers in camp.

Comments: Your start was quite good but when you crept the trolls you seemed to prefer to stop and consolidate your army instead of expanding further out. If you had taken the outpost in force at that point and then built siege then you might have stood more of a chance but I think you were already a bit late for the ram or ladder rush. You could try building the siege works before the armoury and getting the upgrades while you are massing to go in. The extra speed this gives you should get you in before there are many towers or the stoneworks.

You must still defend your camp and I would not rely upon level 2 furnaces being able to fire. Build towers at your camp. just a few to start when the Knights first appear but if you need to take a large force towards the castle then build more towers to compensate at your camp.

Your creeping was OK. I wouldn't change much about that aspect of the game but your aggression mid-game needs some work and you should move more troops around in force to make a serious attack. Gondor will try to take advantage by attacking your flanks while you do it but you don't need much at your camp to harass the Knights into leaving or to make sure that they cannot take your entire camp down. On Fangorn Forest you should also probably go for the outpost just in front of the Rohan door and really take the fight to them.

Mines in large numbers can do the job pretty well. Try 10 mines with WC to get them to the wall and you can do a lot of damage.

Rating: 4



esa|Skip (Gondor)
Build Order: Blacksmith + Pippin, Farms, Stables, Knights, Blacksmiths, Horse Shields, Well, Upgrades, Marketplace, Stoneworks, Gandalf, Trebuchets, Outposts, Barracks, Soldiers
PP: Elven Wood, Heal, Gandalf the White, Elven Allies, Eagles

Good creeping.
Ran towards his side of the map after WC and dropped land near a mill. Clear thinking.
Pippin harassed mill workers.
Soldier formations.
Rank 10 Knights.
Rank 10 Gandalf.

Poor horse micro.
Didn't use wedge to attack structures with Knights.
Watch treb fire on your own troops.
Split trebs into groups so they fire at different targets.
Take down the Isengard citadel to avoid rebuilding of the camp.

Comments: You were not really pressured too much and you spoiled the Isengard force moving forward to take the outpost. Getting the outposts with towers was a good move and the attack with soldiers and trebs was well organised but badly executed when the fighting started because a lot fo treb fire landed on your own soldiers. You really need to work on that part of your game. That assault should have finished the game quicker but that was your biggest error.

You crept well enough and your Knights made good attempts at harassment but the Knight micro was not so good but on this map if you use the minimap to navigate then the Knights have to pass through a lot of choke points to get around and you need to watch them running into pikes when you aren't looking.

Rating: 5



Match Comments

Isengard camping against Gondor. Don't see that every day.

Entertainment value: 4

Overall game rating: 4