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For Marje [Review pls]

#1Earendil  May 28 2018, 22:33 PM -
late night game of old mates
#2suturbs  May 29 2018, 09:50 AM -
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You guys keep playing when I work(mostly my evening/night). You also keep playing only CW shit, really lame coz you attract almost all enthusiastic good players for u, where only other usual guys left for me. Once a week with aunt Loser112 3x3, or FFA with uncle ganar... AT least you dont play FFA CW, then that staff is reserved to play with me when I am online. (Which you can never do CW FFA, you know why)

QUOTE
For Marje [Review pls]

Ok I watched rep just once. but this isn't something I initiatedly doing, may not be enough. And prob too much detailed shit, to omit them, need to read few times, sorry I cant do right now...

I don't like rivalries peer to peer. This is not a player evaluation, or comparison.. This is an evaluation of choices, performances, randomness together, merely about this replay... Sometimes moves are appreciated, sometimes ciriticized, please don't take it personal... This review is public, it's open to add/subtract lines. It's open to updating.

REVIEW

EARLY GAME
-Mina could have delayed the chant, just could try stealing the money then march into gondor base. (Though Dexter was a good helper, another issue)
-Felix took some outposts very early, good work. (In fact almost a must, since mordor shouldn't be able to claim it back for a longer time than any army else. Its also very bad others taking outpost and being able to keep it!!)
-Dunedain was trying to get frontier/far creeps first, by heros a.m.a.p. (to prepare a ruthless mobile army!
-G& M didn't really prepare a good defense. The fate of the game was mainly determined by this. Rest are mostly common happenings.
-Though even 2-3 SOR would help and change alot of things. But heck, DUNE ROHAN deploy theoden charge so ruthless! Who could really give a damn to send SOR so early ohmy.gif (as almost good as loser112's imaginary young-teen version tongue.gif)

THEN
Spoiler

-G&M team was expecting to make some bashings with horse + naz? If so, that shouldn't be even the quarter effective than "horse+naz in anorien". Trol + Horse better for longer term situations....Additional note: Some might think "late naz coz of mordor taking outposts".I think No, 1: naz wouldn't break G&R rushes much enough, it's not anorien, regrouping full 3 RAs+knights is really faster!.. Besides, If the close outpost wasn't taken early by mordor, it would gonna be shitter for mordor anyways. one of the worst things for FOD is "a close outpost to be lurked on by the opponent fols continuously".
-LATINO against R & G, needs not "the first units" fast, but "the whole army" fast.
Gondor is weak in camps, it's a known fact. (microing few horses, early such bash plans won't make GM win). Need either good eco or exceptionally good crep with gondor, which is impossible vs dunedain rohan
-Meanwihle LATINO was weak in eco due to OR before his base rushed, Gondor(Oats) had already taken outpost long ago. We will come to this later... (So much eco boost by outposts, beyond the imaginations. Easy with 360 costed ups, and 3 blaksmith extras repay theirselves real faster, in 1-2 min!)
-Throughout years, What I saw some guys(dune, oats) grasped very well the idea that "taking the outpost, and seeing it's priority over some other stuff" which some others still doesn't see it enoughly.
-Some guys don't take outpost on earlier time.. Oats did, still had upgrds for alot of horses. It should work for camp maps.

NOTES
Spoiler

*2x2x2x2 FFA are out of ordniary, so people should unlern some of the moves of 2x2 1x1, even 3x3, and do something effective for the real time map/mu/XvXvX
**People don't rate taking outposts fast, coz they overrate "faster units to rush".. Nope, faster-bash army is not a priority in camp maps, especially if the opponent is as good as you. To grasp little hint requires a 1x1 pro to **unlearn** something for just camp games. Otherwise the pro will be deluding himself.... You shouldn't be able to bash someone because of 20 seconds early horse in camps. Outpost related eco is more important than even 2 outer farms. Take outpost just after first horse...(They pay themselves off in 1-3 minutes)
*Just some exceptions when its a creep race, then u can make fast blade too to take all creeps. OFC IF THEY WILL LET U tongue.gif
*Another excepton for "isen ultimate fast blade rush"; you may not want to take outpost for isen, first (like DEXTER didn't)... But i still would take the outpost like mina, but would expect a rush made by isen, and be prepared better & beforer.
*GI mirror boring, but good save from rush, though... COZ THE HELP OF outpost ofc!


THEN
Spoiler

-DUNE+OATS rush to G & M was very cruel, Rohan had no ups, fires, etcs. Just theo 4.. Fast naz could break the rush enoughly? Even could break first one, I doubt it's sustainable effect..
-That was a killer attack, even the felix hadn't yet sent a SOR there. Could send but nobody senses easily such shit rush in early game... But folks, you should if it's G&R. horses & fast granted. Though the charge wasn't expected..
-I'd not naz in camp games, except some 3x3 maps it's ok, but still not safe..
-You won't be able to make a killer bash with a camp gondor you got VS G&R unless you got enough trolls.. (its not anorien; naz+horses will work quite less likely, and only if ur build order and early earnings were superior)

-Mina took lurtz, take it before armory or don't take for a longer time... otherwise the GI mirror rush will be much more effective. In fact whoever rushes fast is more importnt about isens.
*If u gondor&mordor and ur first units are the horses, do it fast... or just late enough to build a eco..)
-Dune adds yeomans with upgrades to battling units... It's lack power than ras? No if u followed, they are faster options than two extra no-existing RA's. The comparison is not valid. U expect losing them and replacinng them with RAS later...
-Mina took the second camp but probably didn't know the general agreement such as "no second, no other than original camp" (Who is this mina P)


FINALS
Spoiler
-After LAGTINO was defeated, the boring GI mirror dodgings came to an end; by Dunedain attacjed to dexter... The rest of the game followed by A FFA nature & depended on the Backbitchers's(dex, felix) decisions mostly.
-G&R had an overconfidence, yet their attack choices werent good enough after LATINO lost. They left mordor alive, BUT they never knew GI mirrors were into a boring 2x2... They could be relaxed if they sensed/spied. But when just had hard battles u 99% didn't spy or didn't look that way.....
-Felix should have taken his camp back earlier than taking third naz IMO. while they ignored/decided to ignore. If mordor got 15 trolls, could even win.. It sometimes happens. If u choose correct camps to attack with SUDDEN rushes(not eventual rushes), It can eliminate one of each alleis.. then it could become more of a FFA...
-I like FELIX & DEXTER, they didn't quit and they were annoying single BACKBITCHs/backstabbers(Not teamingly, just geostrategically ofc).. Probably funniest parts are around here..

-Earendil follows AOD time, it's a good detail, also summons pippin (lol) good idea too, vs AOD etc (lol)... (deploying every possible men, women to work, is your idea? then honestly saying, Good work tongue.gif)..
-Felix should have killed all outposts to terorize the balances... Or revenge to GR.. If i were him i might either make 3-4 orcpits on posts, and masstrol+cata hoping they can be useful in the lack of rain BEFORe buying third naz. But sometimes I just do the same "half observant mode" he did P

-Some may question at "first aod", why didnt dune help oats to defeat mina isen base... Well... They had their backbitches <3 (dex & felix) out there really "annoying"...
-Dune wanted to damage the geo-strategically prior enemy, dexter(which was on the way) & didin't help oats at "attacking to the other isen". I think, dune did the correct thing. Oats should take it easy to go further, also shouldn't quit later.

-I didn't like any of aod castings in this game (except ara's was meaningful, maybe 1-2 more i didnt watch that carefully)

-Felix dodged to attack much, (left some outposts of gondor un-touched) coz of not wishing any whole focus on himself? Probably better to attack oats gondor with 4-6 fast trolls no matter what enemy attraction next.
-Somehow RG overconfidence made them ignore the backbitchers Dex and Felix, made the game funnier than expected. and easier for Mina & earendil.

-Dex flying to rohan outpost with rog after some blow on the camp... ITs a exceptional insight to see its importance. It was rare some 5 years ago i am glad someone doing it move frequently nowadays. Though didnt kill post there, was the good move.



At some point I didn't follow to guess why Oats quited. Prob he gave up after the eco boost no more helping, and no more dominatively playing. Dune is opposite of oats at this point...

Orange if doesn't lose hope, even deploys hobbit vs aod. ITs a good motivation. I hope to see him and everybody doing it more often... These odd 2x2+FFA mixture games are really funny to even watch I guess coz of surprises..

G&M knight + naz theory is seemingly good but in camps won't work, at least vs oats + dune, to even save the ass for more than 2-3 battles. (if even first rush end losing cita, or unit building, its GG)
This post has been edited by suturbs: Jun 1 2018, 14:42 PM
#3Felixanius  May 29 2018, 10:54 AM -

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Nice review!

Actually the plan was to make wk, but then I had to do Naz to defend my ally, but your right Naz not rly useful. And I was making alliances and just wanted to observe the game ingame biggrin.gif But some ppl (OATS?!?!) still attacked me! So I had to srike back a bit. And it seems orange never reads chat cause I made my alliance with him really late which cost me outpost and camp and him some catas tongue.gif
#4Dunedain`  May 29 2018, 11:47 AM -

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QUOTE(suturbs @ Today, 15:20 PM)
You guys keep playing when I work(mostly my evening/night). You also keep playing only CW shit, really lame coz you attract almost all enthusiastic good players for u, where only other usual guys left for me. Once a week with aunt Loser112 3x3, or FFA with uncle ganar... AT least you dont play FFA CW, then that staff is reserved to play with me when I am online. (Which you can never do CW FFA, you know why)


Ok I watched rep just once. but this isn't something I initiatedly doing, may not be enough. And prob too much detailed shit, to omit them, need to read few times, sorry I cant do right now...

I don't like rivalries peer to peer. This is not a player evaluation, or comparison.. This is an evaluation of choices, performances, randomness together, merely about this replay... Sometimes moves are appreciated, sometimes ciriticized, please don't take it personal... This review is public, it's open to add/subtract lines. It's open to updating.

REVIEW

EARLY GAME
-Mina could have delayed the chant, just could try stealing the money then march into gondor base. (Though Dexter was a good helper, another issue)
-Felix took some outposts very early, good work. (In fact almost a must, since mordor shouldn't be able to claim it back for a longer time than any army else. Its also very bad others taking outpost and being able to keep it!!)
-Dunedain was trying to get frontier/far creeps first, by heros a.m.a.p. (to prepare a ruthless mobile army!
-G& M didn't really prepare a good defense. The fate of the game was mainly determined by this. Rest are mostly common happenings.
-Though even 2-3 SOR would help and change alot of things. But heck, DUNE ROHAN deploy theoden charge so gay! Who could really give a damn to send SOR so early ohmy.gif (as almost good as loser112's imaginary young-teen version tongue.gif)

THEN
Spoiler
-G&M team was expecting to make some bashings with horse + naz? If so, that shouldn't be even the quarter effective than "horse+naz in anorien". Trol + Horse better for longer term situations....Additional note: Some might think "late naz coz of mordor taking outposts".I think No, 1: naz wouldn't break G&R rushes much enough, it's not anorien, regrouping full 3 RAs+knights is really faster!.. Besides, If the close outpost wasn't taken early by mordor, it would gonna be shitter for mordor anyways. one of the worst things for FOD is "a close outpost to be lurked on by the opponent fols continuously".
-LATINO against R & G, needs not "the first units" fast, but "the whole army" fast.
Gondor is weak in camps, it's a known fact. (microing few horses, early such bash plans won't make GM win). Need either good eco or exceptionally good crep with gondor, which is impossible vs dunedain rohan
-Meanwihle LATINO was weak in eco due to OR before his base rushed, Gondor(Oats) had already taken outpost long ago. We will come to this later... (So much eco boost by outposts, beyond the imaginations. Easy with 360 costed ups, and 3 blaksmith extras repay theirselves real faster, in 1-2 min!)
-Throughout years, What I saw some guys(dune, oats) grasped very well the idea that "taking the outpost, and seeing it's priority over some other stuff" which some others still doesn't see it enoughly.
-Some guys don't take outpost on earlier time.. Oats did, still had upgrds for alot of horses. It should work for camp maps.

NOTES
Spoiler
*2x2x2x2 FFA are out of ordniary, so people should unlern some of the moves of 2x2 1x1, even 3x3, and do something effective for the real time map/mu/XvXvX
**People don't rate taking outposts fast, coz they overrate "faster units to rush".. Nope, faster-bash army is not a priority in camp maps, especially if the opponent is as good as you. To grasp little hint requires a 1x1 pro to **unlearn** something for just camp games. Otherwise the pro will be deluding himself.... You shouldn't be able to bash someone because of 20 seconds early horse in camps. Outpost related eco is more important than even 2 outer farms. Take outpost just after first horse...(They pay themselves off in 1-3 minutes)
*Just some exceptions when its a creep race, then u can make fast blade too to take all creeps. OFC IF THEY WILL LET U tongue.gif
*Another excepton for "isen ultimate fast blade rush"; you may not want to take outpost for isen, first (like DEXTER didn't)... But i still would take the outpost like mina, but would expect a rush made by isen, and be prepared better & beforer.
*GI mirror boring, but good save from rush, though... COZ THE HELP OF outpost ofc!


THEN
Spoiler
-DUNE+OATS rush to G & M was very cruel, Rohan had no ups, fires, etcs. Just theo 4.. Fast naz could break the rush enoughly? Even could break first one, I doubt it's sustainable effect..
-That was a killer attack, even the felix hadn't yet sent a SOR there. Could send but nobody senses easily such shit rush in early game... But folks, you should if it's G&R. horses & fast granted. Though the charge wasn't expected..
-I'd not naz in camp games, except some 3x3 maps it's ok, but still not safe..
-You won't be able to make a killer bash with a camp gondor you got VS G&R unless you got enough trolls.. (its not anorien; naz+horses will work quite less likely, and only if ur build order and early earnings were superior)

-Mina took lurtz, take it before armory or don't take for a longer time... otherwise the GI mirror rush will be much more effective. In fact whoever rushes fast is more importnt about isens.
*If u gondor&mordor and ur first units are the horses, do it fast... or just late enough to build a eco..)
-Dune adds yeomans with upgrades to battling units... It's lack power than ras? No if u followed, they are faster options than two extra no-existing RA's. The comparison is not valid. U expect losing them and replacinng them with RAS later...
-Mina took the second camp but probably didn't know the general agreement such as "no second, no other than original camp" (Who is this mina P)


FINALS
Spoiler -After LAGTINO was defeated, the boring GI mirror dodgings came to an end; by Dunedain attacjed to dexter... The rest of the game followed by A FFA nature & depended on the Backbitchers's(dex, felix) decisions mostly.
-G&R had an overconfidence, yet their attack choices werent good enough after LATINO lost. They left mordor alive, BUT they never knew GI mirrors were into a boring 2x2... They could be relaxed if they sensed/spied. But when just had hard battles u 99% didn't spy or didn't look that way.....
-Felix should have taken his camp back earlier than taking third naz IMO. while they ignored/decided to ignore. If mordor got 15 trolls, could even win.. It sometimes happens. If u choose correct camps to attack with SUDDEN rushes(not eventual rushes), It can eliminate one of each alleis.. then it could become more of a FFA...
-I like FELIX & DEXTER, they didn't quit and they were annoying single BACKBITCHs/backstabbers(Not teamingly, just geostrategically ofc).. Probably funniest parts are around here..

-Earendil follows AOD time, it's a good detail, also summons pippin (lol) good idea too, vs AOD etc (lol)... (deploying every possible men, women to work, is your idea? then honestly saying, Good work tongue.gif)..
-Felix should have killed all outposts to terorize the balances... Or revenge to GR.. If i were him i might either make 3-4 orcpits on posts, and masstrol+cata hoping they can be useful in the lack of rain BEFORe buying third naz. But sometimes I just do the same "half observant mode" he did P

-Some may question at "first aod", why didnt dune help oats to defeat mina isen base... Well... They had their backbitches <3 (dex & felix) out there really "annoying"...
-Dune wanted to damage the geo-strategically prior enemy, dexter(which was on the way) & didin't help oats at "attacking to the other isen". I think, dune did the correct thing. Oats should take it easy to go further, also shouldn't quit later.

-I didn't like any of aod castings in this game (except ara's was meaningful, maybe 1-2 more i didnt watch that carefully)

-Felix dodged to attack much, (left some outposts of gondor un-touched) coz of not wishing any whole focus on himself? Probably better to attack oats gondor with 4-6 fast trolls no matter what enemy attraction next.
-Somehow RG overconfidence made them ignore the backbitchers Dex and Felix, made the game funnier than expected. and easier for Mina & earendil.

-Dex flying to rohan outpost with rog after some blow on the camp... ITs a exceptional insight to see its importance. It was rare some 5 years ago i am glad someone doing it move frequently nowadays. Though didnt kill post there, was the good move.



At some point I didn't follow to guess why Oats quited. Prob he gave up after the eco boost no more helping, and no more dominatively playing. Dune is opposite of oats at this point...

Orange if doesn't lose hope, even deploys hobbit vs aod. ITs a good motivation. I hope to see him and everybody doing it more often... These odd 2x2+FFA mixture games are really funny to even watch I guess coz of surprises..

G&M knight + naz theory is seemingly good but in camps won't work, at least vs oats + dune, to even save the ass for more than 2-3 battles. (if even first rush end losing cita, or unit building, its GG)


Wow! Amazing review marje, thanks!

and it was really fun playing this after a longtime...
i guess after playing clan wars ,i forgot the fun taste of these games ( 2v2v2v2 , 4v4 , ffa ) playing it with friends or good/pros players is really fun.

at one point i thought we could win this easily ( when we killed latino and almost felix ) because i am really confident with my rohan, so i really thought i would win this easily, but then i don't know what happened, i really didn't know what to do i mean where to go where to attak or whom to attack ( i think it's because playing clan wars , tournaments , 1v1 for a long time now and not playing much big map games 4v4 or 2v2v2v2, i totally lost the technique to win these kinds of games ) then later after game i realized i just had to attack orange gondor first no needed to go after dexter or fight all, i needed to take all the outposts or just kill orange or go after 1 not all ,and with all heros and high rank horses it would be easy i think but i didn't play like that , more like lazy which cost us the game.

after a long time it was really fun playing high rank gimli , legolas , aragorn. but wasn't able to use them nicely at all, also i had heal when oats gtw was about to die and could save him but realized it really late tongue.gif so lazy play by me all game.

but still it was super fun!

i think we should do this more ( 2v2v2v2 , 2v2v2 , ffa , 4v4 )
This post has been edited by Dunedain`: May 29 2018, 11:52 AM
#5Beterwel  May 29 2018, 12:32 PM -
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Seems like too boring game. Also ppl making alliances everywhere. Raining for eachother, not killing when possible n stuff. Not really competitive and seemingly endless. Type of game i'd play at 4/5 AM when too much beer and nothing else to do xd
#6Earendil  May 29 2018, 13:37 PM -
QUOTE(suturbs @ Today, 11:50 AM)
You guys keep playing when I work(mostly my evening/night). You also keep playing only CW shit, really lame coz you attract almost all enthusiastic good players for u, where only other usual guys left for me. Once a week with aunt Loser112 3x3, or FFA with uncle ganar... AT least you dont play FFA CW, then that staff is reserved to play with me when I am online. (Which you can never do CW FFA, you know why)


Ok I watched rep just once. but this isn't something I initiatedly doing, may not be enough. And prob too much detailed shit, to omit them, need to read few times, sorry I cant do right now...

I don't like rivalries peer to peer. This is not a player evaluation, or comparison.. This is an evaluation of choices, performances, randomness together, merely about this replay... Sometimes moves are appreciated, sometimes ciriticized, please don't take it personal... This review is public, it's open to add/subtract lines. It's open to updating.

REVIEW

EARLY GAME
-Mina could have delayed the chant, just could try stealing the money then march into gondor base. (Though Dexter was a good helper, another issue)
-Felix took some outposts very early, good work. (In fact almost a must, since mordor shouldn't be able to claim it back for a longer time than any army else. Its also very bad others taking outpost and being able to keep it!!)
-Dunedain was trying to get frontier/far creeps first, by heros a.m.a.p. (to prepare a ruthless mobile army!
-G& M didn't really prepare a good defense. The fate of the game was mainly determined by this. Rest are mostly common happenings.
-Though even 2-3 SOR would help and change alot of things. But heck, DUNE ROHAN deploy theoden charge so gay! Who could really give a damn to send SOR so early ohmy.gif (as almost good as loser112's imaginary young-teen version tongue.gif)

THEN
Spoiler
-G&M team was expecting to make some bashings with horse + naz? If so, that shouldn't be even the quarter effective than "horse+naz in anorien". Trol + Horse better for longer term situations....Additional note: Some might think "late naz coz of mordor taking outposts".I think No, 1: naz wouldn't break G&R rushes much enough, it's not anorien, regrouping full 3 RAs+knights is really faster!.. Besides, If the close outpost wasn't taken early by mordor, it would gonna be shitter for mordor anyways. one of the worst things for FOD is "a close outpost to be lurked on by the opponent fols continuously".
-LATINO against R & G, needs not "the first units" fast, but "the whole army" fast.
Gondor is weak in camps, it's a known fact. (microing few horses, early such bash plans won't make GM win). Need either good eco or exceptionally good crep with gondor, which is impossible vs dunedain rohan
-Meanwihle LATINO was weak in eco due to OR before his base rushed, Gondor(Oats) had already taken outpost long ago. We will come to this later... (So much eco boost by outposts, beyond the imaginations. Easy with 360 costed ups, and 3 blaksmith extras repay theirselves real faster, in 1-2 min!)
-Throughout years, What I saw some guys(dune, oats) grasped very well the idea that "taking the outpost, and seeing it's priority over some other stuff" which some others still doesn't see it enoughly.
-Some guys don't take outpost on earlier time.. Oats did, still had upgrds for alot of horses. It should work for camp maps.

NOTES
Spoiler
*2x2x2x2 FFA are out of ordniary, so people should unlern some of the moves of 2x2 1x1, even 3x3, and do something effective for the real time map/mu/XvXvX
**People don't rate taking outposts fast, coz they overrate "faster units to rush".. Nope, faster-bash army is not a priority in camp maps, especially if the opponent is as good as you. To grasp little hint requires a 1x1 pro to **unlearn** something for just camp games. Otherwise the pro will be deluding himself.... You shouldn't be able to bash someone because of 20 seconds early horse in camps. Outpost related eco is more important than even 2 outer farms. Take outpost just after first horse...(They pay themselves off in 1-3 minutes)
*Just some exceptions when its a creep race, then u can make fast blade too to take all creeps. OFC IF THEY WILL LET U tongue.gif
*Another excepton for "isen ultimate fast blade rush"; you may not want to take outpost for isen, first (like DEXTER didn't)... But i still would take the outpost like mina, but would expect a rush made by isen, and be prepared better & beforer.
*GI mirror boring, but good save from rush, though... COZ THE HELP OF outpost ofc!


THEN
Spoiler
-DUNE+OATS rush to G & M was very cruel, Rohan had no ups, fires, etcs. Just theo 4.. Fast naz could break the rush enoughly? Even could break first one, I doubt it's sustainable effect..
-That was a killer attack, even the felix hadn't yet sent a SOR there. Could send but nobody senses easily such shit rush in early game... But folks, you should if it's G&R. horses & fast granted. Though the charge wasn't expected..
-I'd not naz in camp games, except some 3x3 maps it's ok, but still not safe..
-You won't be able to make a killer bash with a camp gondor you got VS G&R unless you got enough trolls.. (its not anorien; naz+horses will work quite less likely, and only if ur build order and early earnings were superior)

-Mina took lurtz, take it before armory or don't take for a longer time... otherwise the GI mirror rush will be much more effective. In fact whoever rushes fast is more importnt about isens.
*If u gondor&mordor and ur first units are the horses, do it fast... or just late enough to build a eco..)
-Dune adds yeomans with upgrades to battling units... It's lack power than ras? No if u followed, they are faster options than two extra no-existing RA's. The comparison is not valid. U expect losing them and replacinng them with RAS later...
-Mina took the second camp but probably didn't know the general agreement such as "no second, no other than original camp" (Who is this mina P)


FINALS
Spoiler -After LAGTINO was defeated, the boring GI mirror dodgings came to an end; by Dunedain attacjed to dexter... The rest of the game followed by A FFA nature & depended on the Backbitchers's(dex, felix) decisions mostly.
-G&R had an overconfidence, yet their attack choices werent good enough after LATINO lost. They left mordor alive, BUT they never knew GI mirrors were into a boring 2x2... They could be relaxed if they sensed/spied. But when just had hard battles u 99% didn't spy or didn't look that way.....
-Felix should have taken his camp back earlier than taking third naz IMO. while they ignored/decided to ignore. If mordor got 15 trolls, could even win.. It sometimes happens. If u choose correct camps to attack with SUDDEN rushes(not eventual rushes), It can eliminate one of each alleis.. then it could become more of a FFA...
-I like FELIX & DEXTER, they didn't quit and they were annoying single BACKBITCHs/backstabbers(Not teamingly, just geostrategically ofc).. Probably funniest parts are around here..

-Earendil follows AOD time, it's a good detail, also summons pippin (lol) good idea too, vs AOD etc (lol)... (deploying every possible men, women to work, is your idea? then honestly saying, Good work tongue.gif)..
-Felix should have killed all outposts to terorize the balances... Or revenge to GR.. If i were him i might either make 3-4 orcpits on posts, and masstrol+cata hoping they can be useful in the lack of rain BEFORe buying third naz. But sometimes I just do the same "half observant mode" he did P

-Some may question at "first aod", why didnt dune help oats to defeat mina isen base... Well... They had their backbitches <3 (dex & felix) out there really "annoying"...
-Dune wanted to damage the geo-strategically prior enemy, dexter(which was on the way) & didin't help oats at "attacking to the other isen". I think, dune did the correct thing. Oats should take it easy to go further, also shouldn't quit later.

-I didn't like any of aod castings in this game (except ara's was meaningful, maybe 1-2 more i didnt watch that carefully)

-Felix dodged to attack much, (left some outposts of gondor un-touched) coz of not wishing any whole focus on himself? Probably better to attack oats gondor with 4-6 fast trolls no matter what enemy attraction next.
-Somehow RG overconfidence made them ignore the backbitchers Dex and Felix, made the game funnier than expected. and easier for Mina & earendil.

-Dex flying to rohan outpost with rog after some blow on the camp... ITs a exceptional insight to see its importance. It was rare some 5 years ago i am glad someone doing it move frequently nowadays. Though didnt kill post there, was the good move.



At some point I didn't follow to guess why Oats quited. Prob he gave up after the eco boost no more helping, and no more dominatively playing. Dune is opposite of oats at this point...

Orange if doesn't lose hope, even deploys hobbit vs aod. ITs a good motivation. I hope to see him and everybody doing it more often... These odd 2x2+FFA mixture games are really funny to even watch I guess coz of surprises..

G&M knight + naz theory is seemingly good but in camps won't work, at least vs oats + dune, to even save the ass for more than 2-3 battles. (if even first rush end losing cita, or unit building, its GG)


Thanks MARJE! Good read like always wub.gif biggrin.gif
#7the Citadel  May 29 2018, 13:45 PM -
so is marje withheld? sorry for insulting u then didnt know smile.gif
#8suturbs  May 29 2018, 18:18 PM -
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QUOTE(Dunedain` @ Today, 13:47 PM)

and it was really fun playing this after a longtime...
I guess after playing clan wars ,i forgot the fun taste of these games ( 2v2v2v2 , 4v4 , ffa ) playing it with friends or good/pros players is really fun.
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but still it was super fun!

I think we should do this more ( 2v2v2v2 , 2v2v2 , ffa , 4v4 )

Yeah dune, I am glad you don't deny this fact just coz most CW guys doesn't know how to have fun of these games.

I hope to see myself forward as well, being included in such games.

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so is marje withheld? sorry for insulting u then didnt know smile.gif
How dare you didn't know my other nicks so farr!! tongue.gif Just joking, but dude, when did you insult me and how ohmy.gif why don't I know/rememeber something about it? (Gladly)..
This post has been edited by suturbs: Jun 12 2018, 21:16 PM
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