Game : Laatste herhaling Version : 1.02 Date : 2005.06.03 02:40:52 Time: 00:15:35 Map : Fords of isen
[AnU5]PPjW - Mordor - Team ? BaLL|EAGLE| - Isengard - Team ?
BaLL|EAGLE|: start: pit. strat: xbows->zerkers.
+going past orcs,knowing xbows will stop them, heading for his mills and taking them both out! +expanded with workers. +stopped early orcs with xbows. +popped out zerkers, going for his base, took 1 pit down. +sold pit and rebuilt mill, managing to rebult pit and 1 batt of xbows.
-fought orcs on TL. -had only 1 mill and couldn't defend it. -you wondered off far from base with you two initial xbows, exposing yourself direly. (KEY).
strat:9(usually best strat for isengard) micro:9.5
+/- after taking his mill I think you shuold have pressed him, but you did it the safe way. +/- had industry, didn't need it, but should have used it in any case, you didn't have to micro a thing at this point .
+used gollum to grab mills, sent orcs to attack, failing, but a much needed move. +grabbed a mill north of ball's base, you of course managed to keep it, I guess you planned this, since xbows cant reclaim it. +took his lonely mill, GG. +decided to creep, after killing wargs built mill asap, before cave downed! +split forces, 1 opccupied the initial 2 xbows, the rest finished off his base, Ace.
-your orcs stalled on his base's entrance for 10+seconds, no reason for this(or maybe typing a taunt?). strat:10 micro:8
Summary: A great game with two very good players, Ball did what was needed to be done, but PPjW outstrated him. Good micro from Ball, great strategy by PPjW, definitely worth a view.
Entertainment:8. PROMOTED FOR NOW TO SILVER, ROTW contender, thinking of GOLD. Overall:8.9=9
Better luck next time, hope you benefit from my revies, cheers.
This post has been edited by [WISE]Major: Jun 7 2005, 17:49 PM
BTW, ppjw, use "e" to select all units of the same type of the currently selected unit that are present on the screen, and "ee" to select all of them in the map. Instead of the old fashioned rectangular selection, as it many times got your laborors moving with them :¬D
hmm.. i don't think this is silver... its called orc spam, requires absolutely no micro.. and i don't see y ppjw get 10 for strategy and 8 for micro.. and it shouldn't be ROTW because its too 1 sided. it definitly not Gold.. sorry Major.. heres what i rate. Ball = 8.5 , ppjw = 7 overall = 6
but your overall +/- are pretty good.. its just the score that needs to be changed.
hmm.. i don't think this is silver... its called orc spam, requires absolutely no micro.. and i don't see y ppjw get 10 for strategy and 8 for micro.. and it shouldn't be ROTW because its too 1 sided. it definitly not Gold.. sorry Major.. heres what i rate. Ball = 8.5 , ppjw = 7 overall = 6
but your overall +/- are pretty good.. its just the score that needs to be changed.
How can you give Ball an 8.5 when he gets killed by only orcs??????????????????????????? I've played PPJW many times and on fords I've always lost but I was at least capable of not being killed by only orcs. PPjW needed a Nazghul at least to kill me. If you get killed by only orcs you're really doing something not okay. The ball strat is such a bad strat it is counterable in the very first minute. caus when you just go near his base with your 2 starting group of orcs and with 1 you attack his archers and with one you destroy his only lumbermill, you've already won. I think ball needs a new strat because the ball strat will only work vs n00bs.
RiCCC,Jun 8 2005, 12:33 PM]How can you give Ball an 8.5 when he gets killed by only orcs??????????????????????????? I've played PPJW many times and on fords I've always lost but I was at least capable of not being killed by only orcs. PPjW needed a Nazghul at least to kill me. If you get killed by only orcs you're really doing something not okay. The ball strat is such a bad strat it is counterable in the very first minute. caus when you just go near his base with your 2 starting group of orcs and with 1 you attack his archers and with one you destroy his only lumbermill, you've already won. I think ball needs a new strat because the ball strat will only work vs n00bs.
i played ppjw on fords last night, he needed 2 naz+darkness to kill me (ok, he probably would have won without darkness )
and i agree, a new strat is needed.
This post has been edited by ragnarokfo: Jun 8 2005, 12:32 PM