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[R] LAL vs GRIM

#1FarMeR`  Feb 4 2007, 03:07 AM -
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We both choose armys because we were sick to death of fod vs fod and mirrors
turned out into a very nice match imo
i usualy get Owned by isen so hard but with the help of laming cats ( i admit ) we were able to pull to aotd / wop / rog / all the goodies
appreciate a review biggrin.gif

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Review by: TheFatOFTheLanD
Starting Possitions
Gondor / LAL|Maverick – West
Isenguard / GRIM|CaDiLLaC – East

Overview

A nice entertaining game, almost constant harassment from Gondor picking away at the isen forces. Both players made mistakes, especially isen who I thought was too passive and then when Gandy came out couldn’t really deal with him, though credit has to be given to Maverick here who microed him superbly. Whereas isen was strong at the begging and seemed to go down hill, the reverse was so for Gondor, for as the game progressed he seemed to get better and better, wp both of you.

Gondor / LAL|Maverick

Typical Gondor two soldier rush, managed to hold his uruks on his side of the map for quite some time. Creeping with pippin but isen came and tried to steal the creep but you some how managed to get it and, the cash and cloak pippin bowdown.gif which was very good. Your horse micro improved as the game went on, good at the beginning, meleed uruks didn’t run them over, and got elves in time for hs rush. Imo with the rush you did not manage to achieve much and lost a battalion of knights 0wn3d.gif , perhaps if you had first attacked the wargs killing your elves then your elves could have taken the very few pikes guarding and you could have done much more damage. Isen was very slow to siege and when he did lack of protection meant your elf summon could kill one and then you nipped in with knights and got the other 2 with bought you the time you needed to get more trebs out. You only lost your gandy once, I wasn’t intirely sure what you were trying to do with him, but the only conciliation was you managed to kill sauruman as well. After this your Gandy micro was spot on, avoiding cripple and doing lots of damage with WB, ranking you up, also got a nice WB killing sauruman thum.gif . Your treb micro was also superb, which essentially won you the game. My only thoughts was that you could ave got a couple of towerguards with them, since you had the money, would have given you that bit more protection from wargs, since lost all of them when gandy was pinned. In the end you got AOD and rank 10 gandy along with 2 rank 10 knights which were ownage! I was worried Balrog would take one out but banner carrier survied! A very good performance by you.

Mistakes / Things to improve

• Could have made more use of 2nd knight battalion, such as trampled workers at mills or creeped middle right warg on your side.
• At some points you forgot about map control, had idle units (towerguards)
• Try and protect elves better from wargs when you use them in HS rush.
• Get some towerguards to help defend trebs from wargs.
• Just as a precaution it is always good to have an outpost late game incase he has pro rog micro and takes down your castle


Isengard / GRIM|CaDiLLaC

You had a good start, defended against the rush well, followed this with good harassment and pike spam. Your early wargs protected your pikes well against his soldiers and meant you could keep much of the map, and allowed you to steal middle creep on his side. I thought that when the HS rush came you were slightly unprepared for it, you used the wargs well to take care of the elves, but I think you could have done with an extra pike battalion in there for some more protection, but despite this you held him off and killed a battalion of knights thumb.gif . There were times throughout the game when you lost units needlessly, be carefull when fighting knights with wargs, his were high ranked and you lost a couple of battalions to them. Also don’t fight knights with pikes on wood, even if your pikes are upgraded. You decided to get early siege which was good but then you didn’t use it, I think it would have been more effective to press an attack at this moment, instead you waited for sauruman and this bought Gondor valuable time. Then when you did go to attack you lost all 3 balistas because they were poorly protected. I’m not sure what you were doing at one point but you had your army pushing on his base from the middle and saruman on his own near the river “hiding” eyebrow.gif in the trees. He was there for a long time and then as he advanced with trebs and gandy he killed him. You also lost 2warg battalions and lurts, which was a turning point since now you were on the back foot and he advanced onto your base with trebs. It was good how you split your army up in anticipation of AOD, but in the end he was too strong for you, nice use of Balrog fire breath at the end killing gandy and an eagle in one!

Mistakes / Things to improve

• Remember to get extra workers at mill
• Labourers are useful to spy his castle with see what he is doing.
• Be careful with wargs, not to lose so many fighting knights.
• Remember to use industry, this was mainly good but a couple of times you were slow to use it.
• Siege earlier and protect your ballista’s better, this I think cost you the game since at that time Gondor was not prepared for a siege.
• Make sure saruman is always with your army

Overall rating: 6
This post has been edited by TheFatOFTheLanD: Feb 21 2007, 21:08 PM
#2FarMeR`  Feb 4 2007, 03:44 AM -
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really this was an entertaining game ohmy.gif
#3THUGZ  Feb 4 2007, 03:45 AM -
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Trebs are so fake its not even funny.
#4Ang3lic  Feb 4 2007, 04:15 AM -

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ill take a look mav i have trouble with that mu too lol
#5FarMeR`  Feb 4 2007, 04:17 AM -
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what you mean fake?
wow why everyone get so pissed when a gondor makes trebs
mordor and isen make their catas and ballista, people just take it for part the game. but if a gondor make trebs they're NUB LAMERS
anyway if i did anything else he would of just owned it so kinda stupid in cw...
#6THUGZ  Feb 4 2007, 04:48 AM -
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The splash damage of trebs is stupid compared to splash damage of catapults.
#7Sage  Feb 4 2007, 05:16 AM -
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ehh catas are actually the most annoying thing of them all lol. ballistas are the lesser of the 3.
#8FarMeR`  Feb 4 2007, 05:56 AM -
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catas get ld wacko.gif
#9THUGZ  Feb 4 2007, 06:35 AM -
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I never knew catapults got leadership, still trebs are fake.
#10Ang3lic  Feb 4 2007, 07:04 AM -

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QUOTE(ThuGz @ Feb 4 2007, 01:35 AM) *

I never knew catapults got leadership, still trebs are fake.

Thats just becasue your a Rohan player Thug, a gondor can not seriouly win a game(not including seige) verses a good player without at least a treb or 2, i hate that when ppl flame as soon as u build a treb its automaticly WTF U CAMPER NUB, i particularly like when ppl call me campers when i build my workshop in base if there is no way to protect it otherwise. tongue.gif
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