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#11tommynt  May 28 2006, 10:07 AM -
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dude it was rndom mirror so start cant be perfect - and i m far away fom being a mordor pro but i dont think that there are lot of playxers who d do better
#12CitRuS  May 28 2006, 11:26 AM -
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QUOTE(HeAvEnN @ May 28 2006, 10:27 AM) *

amazing game . .rep 150kb . ..yea super extra amazing. . but players were not good at this game. . .

btw : u write : that game show pro skills .. .. .i think that game shows how to don't play mor. . . . cuz both mor were extreamlly bad . . . i was laugthing when i saw first 5 min .. .and them stop watching . .ssry gays but ur mor sucks ;p

LOL i been playing mordor mirrors since start of patch 2, beating pro mordors such as PPJW etc so yes i do no how to play a mordor mirror but like tommynt said, it was random mirror so the starting BO wasnt very right
#13Major  May 28 2006, 11:35 AM -
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lol, he sounds like moose.
#14Jobbies  May 28 2006, 11:56 AM -
He does, but he has to many posts to be moose it seems sad.gif .
#15tommynt  May 28 2006, 12:09 PM -
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played today in qm some dude named .... then moose ranked 100 or so - beat him in 2 min
so if this is the same dude he better back off
#16CitRuS  May 28 2006, 20:40 PM -
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i hope its moose cause then i can pwn him biggrin.gif
#17Daemon  May 28 2006, 21:27 PM -
Tagged for me.
#18Daemon  May 28 2006, 22:46 PM -
MUD|tommynt (Mordor) v [DT]Shadow (Mordor)


Map: Fords of Isen


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MUD|tommynt (Mordor)
Build Order: Pit + Gollum, Mills, Orcs, Slaughterhouses, Pit x 3, Outpost, Furnaces, Nazgul, Archers, Fire, Banner, Troll Cage, Trolls, Witch King, Orc/archer combos.
PP: Eye of Sauron, Tortured Land, Industry, Darkness, Balrog

thum.gif Archers garrisoned in the outpost citadels.
thum.gif Bought banner to counter screech.
thum.gif Some useful harassment with Gollum bought you time at the start.
thum.gif Some useful creeping.

sad.gif Slow with extra mill workers.
sad.gif Too slow with extra orc pits.
sad.gif Slow to buy PP abilities after the Eye of Sauron.
sad.gif Slow to get orc archers against the Nazgul.
sad.gif Keep using Darkness.

Comments: You only really made one mistake that lost you the game in the first 5 minutes. You built Slaughterhouses in your camp instead of more pits early on. By the time you had built your second pit your opponent had 4 fully functioning pits and was spamming his way to map control and economic superiority. For Mordor that translates to him getting more Nazgul faster than you and then getting Witch King leadership to finish you off with orc archers. Funnily enough this is exactly what happened.

You were slow to get orc archers and fire in response to the Nazgul and you didn't rebuild the destroyed pits so you were slow to restock on orcs after the big battles.

Get the pits faster at the start, get extra mill workers at the mills faster and counter spam his orcs all over the map.

Don't keep your Witch King so close to your orcs to give them the leadership bonus. The range of the bonus is quite large so back the Witch King off to protect him. Fly in when there are only a couple of bats of orc archers left and finish them off with him.

Keep using Darkess repeatedly to get the bonus. Luckily for you your opponent also forgot to use it constantly otherwise he would have finished you off quicker.

Rating: 4

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[DT]Shadow (Mordor)
Build Order: Pit + Gollum, Mills, Orcs, Pit, Furnace, Pits, Nazgul, Outpost, Furnaces, Witch King, Fire, Banner, Orc/archer combos, Troll Cage, Siege Works, Catapults, Trolls, Drummer Trolls
PP:Eye of Sauron, Tortured Land, Industry, Darkness, Balrog

thum.gif Good spying and harassment with GOllum.
thum.gif Nice early Nazgul because of good map control and mill defence. Good screech use.
thum.gif Nice use of Leadership from Drummer Trolls and Witch King.
thum.gif Nice creeping.
thum.gif Good constant pressure.

sad.gif Slow with extra mill workers.
sad.gif Slow with archers and fire because of max pop cap - kill the orcs in the slaughterhouses.
sad.gif Lost Nazgul cheaply at teh North East outpost due to inattention.
sad.gif Keep using Darkness.
sad.gif Didn't buy Balrog as soon as you had the PP's. Could have ended the game right there.

Comments: A good solid start with a good mill defence and then some good harassment and creeping. You moved on to the Nazgul well and made an impact straight away with teh first one. This was a good move.

After that you really needed to get 4 or mor orc/archer combos with fire and the banner and the Witch King and finish the game off. You seemed to get stuck with a max pop cap or normal orcs and didn't just send them to the Slaughterhouse to die and give you money, you just seemed to forget that you could do that. Late game I generally tend to have one pit just spamming free orcs straight into a Slaughterhouse to pay for the archers and upgrades.

If you did that with your excess orcs then you could have had the combos much quicker. The siege works are generally useless in Mordor mirrors because of the Nazgul and the trolls are generally a waste of time except for the Drummer trolls.

Keep using Darkness to get the bonuses and keep your Witch King further back from your troops for more protection. You almost lost the Witch King once by standing him too close to your troops and he came within range of the enemy archers while you weren't looking.

You were a bit slow mid-game but if you learn to execute this strat deliberately and much faster then you will win much more easily.

Rating: 5

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Match Comments

Two slow Mordor's trade blows in slow motion.

Entertainment value: 5

Overall game rating: 5

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#19CitRuS  May 29 2006, 00:32 AM -
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thx m8 biggrin.gif n i fort darkness cancled each other out hence why i didnt use it wacko.gif
#20Daemon  May 29 2006, 09:36 AM -
QUOTE(gunningham @ May 29 2006, 01:32 AM) *

thx m8 biggrin.gif n i fort darkness cancled each other out hence why i didnt use it wacko.gif


Go read the 1.03 change logs about the weather. Darkness no longer cancels anything because all it does it give buffs to your own troops. Cloud Break is the same. Rain is the complication.
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