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D3rBessere vs TeamSorad

#1M3lkor  Apr 15 2005, 11:45 AM -
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hi i played a rohan mirror today and i thought i had won but then he pushed me back dry.gif
well i never thought elves are that strong .i normally beat player who play with elves but he always made this legolas exp shit
so he had high lvl elves and he kicked my ass lol i had glorius charge aragorn and eomer but he still won sad.gif
some kind of imbalanced . what could i do better next time .D3rBessere is my rohan only name .
This post has been edited by Darky: Apr 16 2005, 17:19 PM
#2Norty  Apr 16 2005, 15:25 PM -
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I Will Review It Be Patience smile.gif
#3Norty  Apr 16 2005, 16:16 PM -
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Trooper's Review:

The Game Was Fantastic, 100% Action was Put in the Game, I have to say this is One of my Top Ten Best List smile.gif , Both has done Well with the Tactic and Strategy that Was Put in the Game!

The Game Went Like This:

I Realy Like the way Both Players Were Harrasing for Map Control The Whole time, Both Players Challenged their way To Victory with Many Different ways, I Believe that ALL Rohan Units was in this Game, From Peasants to Ents were Used VERY WELL!

D3rBessere:

Very Good Rohan Play thumb.gif, I Must say U had an Outstanding Management on ur Rohirrim Archers, and Well done getting Glorious Charge which was Vital in this Game. I Really like How the Peasant Spamming was Used very nice for Map Control! Then you got some Fire Archers, Oh btw, Ur Rohirrim Archers Killed All of His Heroes many Times :ohmy: , This shows how good of Of a Archer Microer u Are! I Understand this game was Frustrating with you, U Took The Map Until Mid Game, I Thought u were the One who were going to be Victorius, U Should!, U Had Level 9 Rohirrims, Theoden, Eoymer, Aragorn, Lego and I Think Gimli too. But nevertheless, Elven Archers Which u were Facing are far More Stronger then Rohirim archers (Those Elven archers were level 9 Also sad.gif ), But U Played Well, Ents were also Used well in this Game, It Took Down half of His Army of Fire Elven Archers!!!, From the Beggining till The End U Had Excellent Rohan Play, Just need to Improve it a bit More!

*Compliment: Excellent Map Control and Awesome Rohirrim Micro!!!

Other Rohan Guy (I Also Forget the Name tongue.gif)

The Main Goal Here was Simple, Get Heroes smile.gif, But that Was Only in the beggining after You Realize how weak heroes are to a Good-Microed Archers, U Harrased his Map Control Excellently at the Beggining, I'll Start From When you Started mking Elven archers, Good Choice against Full upgraded - High Ranked Rohirrim Archers!, Not to Mention u Put a Good use with Legolas's Ability "Train Archers" On Yeomen and Elven! U Had Ents Power At the End to Crush D3r's Base and Make a Way for ur archers to get in, Which was the Moment of Victory thumb.gif, Good Job on using Elven Archers Nicely!!!

*Compliment: Harrasing Map Control until the End, Good Use of Elven Archers thumb.gif

I Couldnt say More about this Game, I'm Not gonna Rate the Players For this Game, But i will Review the Game Because these 2 Guys have Made the Game Enterntaining, So Remember this: The Game's Rating is Both of Ur's Rating smile.gif

(I Recommend for Everyone to Watch This Game smile.gif )

Im Giving this Game a 8.8/10

And Im Gonna Award this game a SILVER REPLAY

Well Done, Im looking for More Intense Game From Both of You cool2.gif

Regards, Trooper
#4Sky  Apr 16 2005, 16:32 PM -
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Good Review biggrin.gif
#5Artistic  Apr 16 2005, 19:13 PM -
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Hmm i expected a bit more after reading the review. I think there is a lot of room for improvement on your HA micro D3rBessere.

- For 1 dont put your heroes Theoden and Eomer under the same hotkey as your army of HA's. Now every time you engaged you heroes ran up front and got whacked in a mere second. Keep them always behind your army for LD.
- Only engage the elves with Glorious Charge. Otherwise retreat a bit. GC recharges so fast its worth the wait.
- When fighting, target the heroes first. You did that sometimes, but only half way through the battle. Always start with the heroes. Lego especially is an easy target smile.gif . He played an important role in this game.

Some other tips:
- dont have a well in your base and at an outpost. Delete the 1 in base.
- you had way too much money at the end, spend it.
- You could have used banner.
- The time you sieged you could have won if you hadnt retreated your HA to the well. He had nothing. Dont let your ents siege unprotected, you had the units to protect them bnut never used them. That cost you the game.
#6Norty  Apr 17 2005, 16:47 PM -
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QUOTE(Artistic @ Apr 17 2005, 04:13 AM)
Hmm i expected a bit more after reading the review. I think there is a lot of room for improvement on your HA micro D3rBessere.

- For 1 dont put your heroes Theoden and Eomer under the same hotkey as your army of HA's. Now every time you engaged you heroes ran up front and got whacked in a mere second. Keep them always behind your army for LD.
- Only engage the elves with Glorious Charge. Otherwise retreat a bit. GC recharges so fast its worth the wait.
- When fighting, target the heroes first. You did that sometimes, but only half way through the battle. Always start with the heroes. Lego especially is an easy target  smile.gif . He played an important role in this game.

Some other tips:
- dont have a well in your base and at an outpost. Delete the 1 in base.
- you had way too much money at the end, spend it.
- You could have used banner.
- The time you sieged you could have won if you hadnt retreated your HA to the well. He had nothing. Dont let your ents siege unprotected, you had the units to protect them bnut never used them. That cost you the game.
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Well Thx for the Add Artistic smile.gif

But I Myself dont agree On Some of your Tips sad.gif

- dont have a well in your base and at an outpost. Delete the 1 in base. (Yeah, That Could Been Usefull At Early Game)

- you had way too much money at the end, spend it. (Remember the Pop Cap Limit, If we Have money it Doesnt mean we have to Spend it!, And To mention that Both players had Every Unit Made
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- You could have used banner. (Banners Are completlely Useless, Waste of Money, Economy Disturber, Earn it in Battle!)

- The time you sieged you could have won if you hadnt retreated your HA to the well. He had nothing. Dont let your ents siege unprotected, you had the units to protect them bnut never used them. That cost you the game. (His Archers Were High-Leveled (5, 8 and 9_, I Dont think u understand how Powerful Elven Archers are!, He will lose half of His Cavalry if he had Attacked Elven archers, And his Archers wud Still Live!)

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#7Norty  Apr 17 2005, 16:48 PM -
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QUOTE(Sky @ Apr 17 2005, 01:32 AM)
Good Review biggrin.gif
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Thx Sky, Ive seen ur reviews, They were Fantastic! smile.gif
#8Artistic  Apr 17 2005, 17:28 PM -
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Hmm i dont agree with you but thats fine smile.gif . Everybody has their own opinion.

About the money:
If you have max pop limits, spend the money on an entmoot or w/e. Besides that, the trick is to never get an excessive amount of money. If you lose and still have 10000 you are doing something wrong. What he did wrong in this particular game was that he didnt put the pressure on the opponent as much as he could have. This way the other guy could keep lvling the elves with legolas. ALWAYS spend the money, only dont spend if you are saving for something big like an entmoot or expensive hero.

Banner:
Banners make you units more powerfull, add an extra unit and recharge you units so you dont need a well. I wouldnt say banners are useless. And not all units can gather that banners in battle. So i disagree with you about the banners. But hey, its personal preference wink.gif .

The siege:
I am 100% sure he could have won. I know how strong elves are, but they were seriously outnumbered. He should have won right there. Besides that, he had mapcontrol so he had more income. If that attack wouldnt have worked right away he could just wear him down by his superior eco. Just outproduce your enemy and keep the pressure on.
#9Norty  Apr 18 2005, 09:01 AM -
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Dont "Always Spend On Money"...Both Players had Entmoot...There was NOTHING LEFT To Buy smile.gif BOth players Had a Strong Army...

And About the Banners

My Answer to Ur Answer would be:

Only Noobs Dont Gain Banners in Battle! smile.gif "And Not All Units can get it in battle" That just means that ur NOT EVEN Going to use The Unit anyways, Waste of Money Period. smile.gif

About the Elves...

3 Elves can Kill 5 Rohirrims According to my Knowledge smile.gif
#10M3lkor  Apr 18 2005, 20:55 PM -
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yes i know i made some mistakes but iam an Isengart player and still learning Rohan
its true that i lost my heros stupid and i should have won this but i always learn from my mistakes
thx for watching my replay smile.gif
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