Battle for Middle Earth

this is a short replay despite its size, full of action. micro was of a good level. It shows some great isen tips on small maps like SI and rohan:

1. use 2 furn start to secure ur econ. EW owns on small maps
2. 2 xbows with wc >>>> horses. they are underused imo.
3. get lurtz early so he can get LD from shooting down horses and elves during Hs rush.
4. gondor infantry is very expensive to upgrade and delays gandalf a lot => RAM RUSH and kill his wall. so u dont have to bother with clumsy siege later on when u want to be microing ur units. pressure is more easily put on gondor this way
5. one warg batt (or maybe 2 if u want to be sure) are more then enough to deal with soldiers. u can also outnumber or out-LD his infantry with pikes.
6. since gondor infantry isnt a real danger, focus on the knights, try to lure them into traps. just like in the gamroth rep i was able to isolate horse batts and close them down with pikes. this is always the turning point in any isen v gondor imo.
7. get rain v gondor! gandalf armor LD on knights is not to be ignored. the exp bonus also gets them rank 10 real fast.
8. what gondor needs on small maps is a fast stoneworker after gandalf. fortunately gondor players arent allowed to do that anymore so u're home free!

enjoy/discuss

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Review by: StuntedAzrael

Starting positions:
Gondor/[NiNe]GoSu - Bottom
Isengard/Veermarck - Top

Overview:

Highly skilled game here and a very good Isen performance. Isen start enabled him good economy and later constant unit spam which dominated this small map. There were few micro mistakes as in all games more or less. Gondor however didn't sit idly waiting to be crushed and it showed teeth in few well done base raids. It was hard for this game to find any general flaws in gameplay. Well played guys.


Gondor/[NiNe]GoSu

It's difficult to comment on your strat-errors since I haven't seen one. Your strat of going horses, soldiers and then Gandalf can counter Isen spam. There have been few replays here recently of showing Horse - soldiers combos against Isen. Since this is a small map they could be very useful here. Think about them next time. Also, buy heal as soon as possible. You could have hurted him much more in one of your raids if you used heal for which you had 1 PP after land and elves.


Isengard/Veermarck

Very good game from you. Not only it's hard to find any general flaws, it's hard to find micro mistakes as well. You seized initiative with strong start and you didn't let go. I would advice to better protect your base against HS rushes. You had the money for towers and since you had 4 mills they are very cheap. Also, always leave a pike or two near your unit producing buildings for protection. You lost that warg pit needlessly.

Highlight of the match:
Gandalf LS-ing FU warg batt and all wargs in it survived full blast without any LD.

Entertainment Rating: 5
Overall Rating: 6

You dont need a review ?

veermarck just by looking at that post it's obvious you should have posted it in the isen strat forum lol

Classic Veer, you forgot it AGAIN

Ok what's the deal with this game? Am I moving it or adding into the title? Also most of your points are common knowledge, though some Isens will disgaree with getting rain vs Gondor. I don't though cuz Gandalfs Ld is a pain in the ass, knights go from rank 5 to rank 8 killing a fod tower with his ld .

which is why you should delete the tower, some isens get fuel the fires instead of rain if they see gondor has no boro/fara LD, cancelling gandalfs LD is also important tho

anyway watched it and here's what i think

- u said 2 xbows with chant own a bat of knights, true but in this game poose could have done land over them and owned but instead used land top right which btw poose wasn't on the mill, you may have placed it a bit too fast m8

- the 2nd rush was good, but i think heal should have been used in this rush and by the time gandy came out it would have been recharged, dno why you picked it when gandy came out but o well

- poose in his first attack on your base i think you let him take your cita too easily but nvm u did good there

- bottom left using heal on those 2 knights was a complete waste it was needed for gandy on veermarck's 2nd base attack, i think you could have maybe pulled off another good defence but knights soldiers and guards weren't there to help and with no heal gandalf died too easily

- on the 2nd attack you could have used land in the fight outside your base but you were probably too busy to know he used land on his mill on the left side of the map

- i think you also should have tried to use knights to see when his attack was coming, you only knew he was gonna attack your base when he was hitting your walls lol seeing the attack coming will make you more prepared and give you time to upgrade some soldiers/guards and put a statue at the front of the base to defend with gandy

poose played good, harrasing as much as possible i can see isen does kinda own gondor on it, but anyway if this were me i would possibly would have gone 2-3 knights to shield to combos and upgrade combos and not knights, also gone for boro LD by taking a creep

4 creeps, 4 which you are not certain to get so elves aren't gonna come fast and when they come it's too late to make a difference (instead use these creeps to get boros LD), so i think do as much as you can with your knights but don't expect to do a fast rush on isen base with elves, instead get a good army of combos + guards and boro/fara

thanks for the comments maia! yeah sorry genral I'm a moron. i want a rating

actually OP review by maia. all that's needed is a score

K Rating it is then!

rating: high 5

oh and comments for u veermarck: i think you played well, hardly any mistakes not that there were many to make, just protect your base better with pikes, that warg pit went down too easy

be aware of the map, you let some FU uruks die to his soldiers and you was fighting on EW

you risked those 2 xbows to creep goblins, then knights came and with land you could have lost them stupidly, maybe don't take the risk next time and protect with 1 bat of pikes just in case he does still have land ready

This map is hard for Gondor b/c of the creep situation imo that prevents elves. I think I should have gotten combos as well, I think this could have owned. Same old crap, nothing to counter Isen's army later game. Veermark played well, I thought I had him beat but just had nothing to counter his army. Soldiers and TG's are just crap vs Isen ...... although after this game I came up with a new bo for this map that I think will work much better and be more effective.

After horse shields and rax to counter pikes, briefly delete your well and make archery range. You will have full ups so will just have to micro well for a while. Make 4 combos and get fire and go and secure outpost and/or attack his base, and also make boro and possibly fara. At outpost make trebs and then attack with all of your army.

I think this would have served me much better in this game. It's hard to keep a well, rax, and archery range in your base at the same time because your econ is just killed so much. So I'm thinking the best time to do this is right before a base raid, then you can build your well back at the outpost.

Anyways gg m8.