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Battle for Middle Earth

Chosen vs Eldar

#31Blueb1rd  Apr 17 2006, 19:42 PM -
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gunni........your strat didnt really work did it?
#32Keidy  Apr 17 2006, 21:07 PM -
QUOTE(gunningham @ Apr 17 2006, 07:37 PM) *

nooo tbh it got silver smile.gif


Seconed that whistling.gif
#33CitRuS  Apr 17 2006, 21:34 PM -
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if not gold tongue.gif
#34Death_2_Them  Apr 18 2006, 15:55 PM -
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[ChoseN]Shadow (Isengard) Vs |Eldar|TopGuN (Mordor)

Map- FOI
Version: 1.03
Match length: 36 minutes

[ChoseN]Shadow (Isengard)

B.O- Pit, Mills, Furns, Armoury, Lurtz, OP, Saruman
PP usage- WC, Industry, TL, Rain

thum.gif Extra labourers
thum.gif Used formations
thum.gif quick ups
thum.gif Two pits to unit spam at OP
thum.gif second armoury for fire and banners
thum.gif Good hero micro
thum.gif Defensive use of TL
thum.gif Good base harrasment

sad.gif Lost the early game mill harrasment
sad.gif Lost several ranked hordes to towers and LD Fire

Comments: A great performance from Isengard. At the start you lost the mill harrasment battle to Mordors use of TL, unit spam and gollum however after quick FB and HA you quickly turned the tide of battle and were back on top. You then carried out a successful raid on Mordors base, taking out their troll cage preventing them from using trolls untill later.

From there you got an OP and lurtz and using two pits you spammed x-bows to counter the naz, trolls, drummers and generally anything Mordor could throw at you (although you had no wargs so if mordor had of build some catas you would of been in trouble)

It was dissapointing that you lost some ranked hordes to his towers however sometimes it couldnt be avioded like when trolls are chasing them down. Mordor should of stopped using TL after the 3rd cast in pre-emption to you having it but they didnt allowing you to dump yous on top. Formations were used consistantly and effectivly and you didnt loose either saruman or lurtz once.

The only thing I will say is that you could of built a slightly bigger army at the end to ensure victory but in this game you didnt need the extra firepower. Powerful play from Isengard pirate.gif

Overall: 7/10


|Eldar|TopGuN (Mordor)

B.O: Pit, Gollum, Tower, SH, troll cage, Naz, Drummers
PP usage: TL, Eye, Industry, Darkness

thum.gif Good mill harrasment
thum.gif Unit spm resulted in MC in early game
thum.gif Used troll to counter isens uruk spam
thum.gif Used fire and LD well
thum.gif Extra labourers
thum.gif Offensive use of TL

sad.gif No harardim used
sad.gif No siege used
sad.gif didnt combine your archers with orcs
sad.gif no attempt to harras Isengards main base
sad.gif Reckless nazgul use
sad.gif Didnt addapt to Isengards play late game

Comments: At the start you looked promising to win as you did a great job of harrasing Isengards mills. However becuase you didnt use haradrim, Isengards FB units tore down your troll cage. Haradrim would of been great to defend here along with creeeping. After isens upgrades your orc spam had minnimal effect on their gameplay

After than you went for troll spamming which worked well against isnes uruks but you didnt use siege to counter the threat of x-bows since fire>>>Mordor. You built several hordes of fire archers and drummers for LD however they lost to uped x-bows. You then repeated your last step- lost again and you base with it.

You should of either combined your archers with orcs to increase their live span or built some catas since Isengards army was comprised mainly of ranged units with no wargs btw

Overall: 5.5/10

Summary- A good game where Mordor gets early game advantage however without harardim for backup, Isens early FB thrashed the orc spam and reduced mordor to going trolls> from there Isen x-bow spmmed to eliminate troll and mordor finished up with mass fire and LD which failed to Isens superior units

Both sides played very well and the game is awarded a silver and ROTW contendor


Entertainment: 7/10
Overall gameplay: 7/10

SILVER AWARD

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This post has been edited by Death_2_Them: Apr 18 2006, 15:56 PM
#35tomac  Apr 18 2006, 16:02 PM -
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7 + 5.5 + 7 is 7?
But maybe it's silver yes, so I will have a look, cause everyone says it's very good tongue.gif
#36Keidy  Apr 18 2006, 16:15 PM -
Good review m8.

Some comments thou after watching the rep my self.

Dont like the Con i got for not going haradrim.
Imo, they are useless vs Isen, and only slow down the arrival of trolls.

And I also think my gollum use early game deserves a "+". I mean, i took out his mill, and when the uruks came, i made them run into the warg lair, and then went back with gollum to take out the mill again, witch was useless for quit some time wink.gif

The thing i did wrong was not to get more towers up. I wanted the fast troll so bad It punished me in the end. With 2 more towers up when he attacked, my cage would have survived and the game could have gone my way.

At the time my trolls were out, i needed to go offensiv to have any chans. I went with 2 down the south and he just manage to get 3 towers up at the OP before i got the cita. Both trolls gone and from there it was no turning back realy. Seige would have been useless imo since lurtz and FU uruks would have pwn them. I would have needed more trolls to guard them and that would have coste to much so i just tryed to spam archers with some DT but it was usless. Mabye im off here, but at least that was my game plan at the time wink.gif

This post has been edited by Keidy: Apr 18 2006, 16:50 PM
#37Death_2_Them  Apr 18 2006, 16:34 PM -
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^ Depends on the isen player, when im up vs isen they are great for creeping which in turn gets you the cash to get quick trolls but thats just my oppinion sleep.gif
#38Death_2_Them  Apr 18 2006, 16:36 PM -
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QUOTE(tomac @ Apr 18 2006, 05:02 PM) *

7 + 5.5 + 7 is 7?
But maybe it's silver yes, so I will have a look, cause everyone says it's very good tongue.gif


The entertainment and gameplay from both combined makes it a 7, look at the other silver reps, you will find that several have one side play excellent but the other playes weak but the gameplay of the first player pushes it to silver tbh sleep.gif
#39Keidy  Apr 18 2006, 16:54 PM -
QUOTE(Death_2_Them @ Apr 18 2006, 04:34 PM) *

^ Depends on the isen player, when im up vs isen they are great for creeping which in turn gets you the cash to get quick trolls but thats just my oppinion sleep.gif


Ok, well all good then. My way isent always the correct one. innocent.gif
But did you see the other comments I edited in? (pretty late edit, you manage to post before so just make sure you see it wink.gif

Oh, and the naz thing. At that point i was doomed. No need realy to just let the naz hang around when he destroy the few units I have.
I recon it was better to just use it than to just have it float around doing nothing wink.gif
#40Death_2_Them  Apr 18 2006, 16:57 PM -
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^ Dont worry about it, when im short on points I will pick up on small things like that so its not major, other examples of lame pros are like "good armoury placment" and such, most players with common sence do this already, its just something to add if im scraping 4 material smile.gif
This post has been edited by Death_2_Them: Apr 18 2006, 16:58 PM
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