thy for saving mine in late game^^ couldnt comeback rly much due to randoms pro harassment... was quite intense wp to all players here:) enjoyed it very much!
Du Random and Turgon u caught my attention...Random for the excellent help to Xel and Turgon i enjoyed very much the fact that you had only orcs (no mumaks no trolls) and u still gave to the enemy a headache!!! WP!!!
Perhaps the most entertaining 2v2 game of the recent months but leniently not as spectacular as it could have been.
Turgon (Mordor)
Given that you are RotwK player,you played quite well but not good enough, mainly due to the wrong power paths and not so much because of your micro/macro which were pretty decent.I believe you and your team could've managed to bring your opponents down with a better teamwork considering Luigi's performance was the best throughout the game along with Random (not flawless though but I will get there too).So here is what I have to point out about your particular performance:
-Try avoiding WC as first power in Mordor-Mirrors, specially when both of your enemies can use land (goblins/mordor/men).Land plays a major role in Bfme2 as first power because it grants 50% armor in contrast to Rotwk, so once you pick WC ,be aware you only have 50% dmg buff, not armor too (unlike in Rotwk).Also, when you are about to rush with orc spam at early game, it goes without saying that all you need is Land and not WC because its better having a particular place in the enemy base which grants you armor buff rather than waste your WC in a small troup of cheap units that will die in their first attack.So try go from the safe path next time and you will see that its benefits are more (Industry->Barrage->Rog) vs most if not all armies.
-The choice of easterlings was a major flaw at your early game.There was none important reason to waste your precious early resources at them simply because your main opponent was not going for Naz (maybe you forgot that the only early cav of mordor is their 1100 hero unlike rotwk) and you could've realised that because of 2 reasons ahe chose to biuld taverns instead and bit was too early to have enough resources and command points for a hero.So given that your micro was decent enough, the wrong choice of both early units and power cauzed you to play more defensively.
-Like I previously mentioned,the Land->Industry->Barrage->Rog is a must-have path for bfme2 beginners because it provides a safer way to get the upper hand at middle/late game.Usually Mordor's early game is very defensive here in contrast to Rotwk, but once you get Industry and your Resources are increased, you have more than one options to improve your performance and take the right choices according to your current state.This simply means that you can either spend your quickly gathered resources on a good-harassment hero or better on Mumas and Mountain Trolls which with proper micro can make the difference at mid game.Specially when your opponent is Mordor and Goblins, once you are have summoned those units on the field first, you automatically get the upper hand given that the teamwork is proper as well.
-I remind that Wyrm has not the choice to manually move on the map unlike Rotw though has much better dmg and armor so it's a good counter power attack on the enemy base or vs heroes.But try to use it wisely because if you attack without something supporting it, the attack will probably cause minor damage like your Fire of Doom did..biuldings can quickly be rebuilt so you need army/siege too when summoning such attacks!
-Again, another waste to the Arrow Volley power.If you had saved it,you'd have a bit faster the 25th power and with proper entente one of your opponents could easily be brought down.Try using your powers choices more wisely and by playing more games/watching some good replays I'm sure you will see a lot of difference in the outcome of your games.
-Other than that, pretty decent micro and macro, do not be afraid to build lamber mills around your ally's base,there are dozens of trees there as well.
-It's always safe enough to build any raxes (tavern/siege/muma) you do not want to be easily destroyed to your ally's base,specially when you realize that there are less chances to be harassed due to his better and stronger defense (usually motw defense>mordor's)
-It was nice to see a variety of powers even though the path you chose was not the most efficient one ,the summon tower being the exception which was a proper way to defend his Fellbeast harassment.But again, playing defensive as Mordor even in late game is not the best way to take the upper hand,specially without Industry.This was easily observed when you tried to attack in late game with your siege (crossing your towers) which were easily stopped by Drogoth.
A courageous attempt overall.
Luigi (MotW)
Quite decent performance,probably the most enjoyable to see though some minor flaws need to be stated.
-Quite risky start, its safer to SoG spam from 2 rax start rather than go for Knights who can easily be countered by lings/SRs--->who are able to counter both your GA and Knights.Early SoG spam vs Goblins is much more efficient due to easy and fast RBs harassment.Then go instantly for Roh once you know which is the appropriate timing to do so (for example when your opponent has lesser RBs and plays more defensively).
-Ironically you had the proper power chosen but barely used it at start...Despite your ally's wrong choice, he needed more than anything your Land at his early attacks because of Xelenos' use of his Land power at his base.Early attacks with RC/WC/Land use have SUCH a HUGE impact at early game and the only thing that a 2v2 team must not overlook is the early teamwork based on those powers.So,like I previously mentioned both of you lacked decent teamwork throughout the whole game.
-Was a pain to my eyes to see your Ara dying so effortlessly at late game, never leave your heroes unsupported,mainly the important ones like the 3k low leveled ones and specially when your opponent occupies the fastest and deadliest units like goblins do.
-Your 1v1 vs Random's goblins which are one of the best was pleasantly surprising, high skilled unit and hero micro, very wise and good choices of your power paths,correct stances (don't forget to change from aggressive to defensive stance when your units/heroes do not attack but are under poison effect-your cav's HP got lower many times due to that),proper saving of your barely dead troups,nice harassment even when your base was half destroyed at mid game and pretty good performance overall except your early game which was bad enough due to your early strategy.
-Your mid and mostly late game was really fun to watch, you did a great job and you got favored by not having Random's Rog summoned to your troups, so with a little properly faster and better planned rush, you could've made the difference and kill your enemy at the right time.
Great effort, well played.
dU|RanDoM (Goblins)
Unlike everyone, your early game was the most effective but your late game was pretty bad due to some minor but important mistakes and the risk you had to take.
-Nice effective performance at your late game, you pushed pretty well your opponent even though you were slightly doubled.
-Fast micro and macro like usual, proper use of stances, efficient hero micro overall except that Drogoth's death was quite cheap, my bet is on a pressumable missclick or loss of attention due to the length of the game.
-I'd be more patient at early game before I choose my first power and check what armies my opponents are .You were lucky due to Luigi's ignorance of using his valuable Land so Bats were proved useful judging in retrospect.
-Try avoiding building Treasure Trove in easily accessible spots in front of your base.
-Knowing its late game and your opponent has surely reached enough power points for EQ,you should be better prepared and upgrade your fortress, it was brought down pretty cheap like Drogoth. I'm quite positive being upgraded it would still be standing there after all of their attacks so you could and should have foreshadowed that being experienced enough (you feed him with your spam enough times to know that as well).
-Efforless 2nd death of Drogoth, we both know you could be more patient and play safer with him regardless of your current state which wasn't bad given that you were under Xelenos' protection before you come back to game and permanently end it.
Consequently, a fun ,high skilled and entertaining performance by you.
[RECON]Xelenos (Mordor)
You mainly had the upper hand throughout the whole game due to your well-organized early,mid and late game strategy.My thoughts:
-Almost flawless early game,right choices of bo, corsairs are pretty handy in Mordor mirrors once the micro is the appropriate one and their equivalent harassment is effective.Had he summoned Nazgul Hero instead of easterlings first, your middle game would've been much different but you did a good job at harassment so he lacked both CP and Resources for that.
-The choice of FB was not the best at mid/late game when your opponent had clearly occupied his side of the map with towers and also had enough archers to threat your flying hero.Perhaps Mumas or Siege weapons would be a better choice at that state.
-Generally good push of your opponent and nice support of your ally (Industry assisted a lot for that Turgon!).
-Camping was not necessary and imho it adds poor elements to the game's performance overall, specially when the players are good enough due to slower pacing.
-You clearly owned your opponent due to his tendency to follow rotwk strategies but you also offered a good support to your ally when it was needed.
To sum up,it was an enjoyable game,nice job to you and everyone else.
Entertainment Rating: 9/10 Skill Rating: 7/10 Total: 8
!!!!!!!!!
Me-gobs
Xelenos-Mordor
Luigi and Turgon - Mordor and Motw, not sure which one of them played each faction