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#1Val`  May 21 2014, 09:37 AM -

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Posting so Randy can review
#2RanDoM'L0L  May 21 2014, 16:31 PM -
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Mordor guy. Micro is terrible, so is macro until few last "minutes".

So, mordor, two SH, two orc pits...so far fine. Later on, everything went wrong.
First off, you are terribly, but seriously terribly slow. In everything, sadly. You lack control of shit in not intense situations. If youre fighting on two different spots on the map, plus youre doing a harrasment with Cav or lings and youre trying to creep this troll, I understand, one of those things is not going to go 100 percent right. But none of this happened. You guys only used one path to fight in, your opponent did not show any resistance and the game was one lined and one dimensional, you can not lose control in games like this.

Dont you build an orc pit in middle of the map. You dont need it. You dont even need 4 orc pits, just build three next to your fortress so you can protect them better with fort towers and orc blocks. You never fucking fight army with orcs. Unless you are absolutely forced to it or you catch one archer in a big fucking clump of your orcs that are boosted somehow(land, eye, warchant). Your harrasment was poor but motw did not really build farms so it was irrelevant. You also started making farms by the middle game(a.k.a end of this game).

Nazgul came late, considering he has only been doing composition of archers and swords.
You also did not deny his creeping, you should have definitely. The whole map should have been covered by orcs and you should have never allowed him to creep in this stage of game considering that he has done nothing the whole game.

Men. You were terribly slow, did not show any harrasment and defended unefficiently. You did not build farm, neither you defended your built ones well. SOrry, there is nothing you have done right in this game.
#3RanDoM'L0L  May 21 2014, 16:36 PM -
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Orc skill: 3,5
Motw skill: 2,5

Overall skill: 3 ...
#4RanDoM'L0L  May 21 2014, 17:08 PM -
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To point out the good things so you dont feel that offended:

Mordor: kept pressure, good. Did not lose Nazzgul to pikes, good. Tried to go with pikes after production buildings, nice(failed though, you need a better estimation of what your units can do under specific attack of your opponents towers and units...you should get that with practice though). Using ram...fun smile.gif.

Get quicker, use hot-keys(from the beginning you will be forcing it a little bit but it's gonna come with time, trust me). Also use groups for you production buildings and units for better control. Click on building/unit, press ctrl+number 1-9(upon your letter keyboard). Press the chosen number to select the chosen object.
Use more paths with orcs. Expand quicker with farms, try to creep steal or deny your opponent from creeping at least if you have the upper hand in the match.

For motw: Composing your army of archers and soldiers of gondor is nice against orcs. Also making stables and trying to go for horses was also nice. Although you have made the stables and the horses took freaking ages to get out. You were either supply blocked(cuz you were not building enough farms, neither you have protected the ones you already made, as I have mentioned before) - there you also have the reason why you had no money for them such a long time.
Build your first two farms and possibly all your production buildings in fort fire and if needed, build the tower expansion(saved your barracks, remember? smile.gif)

Also, get quicker, use hot-keys. Same as for Ghost. Use groups(in previous text).
Micro and control your units, seriously. Also expand for god's sake. Use your archers/cav to defend in beginning, SoGs to harras, then use more combined army to push mordor back, because mordor is the worst faction to get from under hard pressure. That is the situation you want to put the mordor guy in.
#5Nocturnal  May 21 2014, 17:32 PM -
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I didn't feel offended at all , u are right about my macro it is really bad , i have hard time spreading orcs and u were right about stopping his creeping as i should have known that his only chance to win is to creep , but i didn't understand the part of my micro , i think micro is about using stances and making ur units away from danger , and i used stances also when he charged with the cavalry i used defence stances and the orcs didn't die also when he used arrow volley i moved the orcs away , so please can u explain the micro part ? , actually i think using a ram was a bad decision as it is risky a bit and i think it would be better to use mountain trolls at least they could defend themselves but it was a fun decision smile.gif , also i gonna try to use hotkeys i know about them but it was really difficult , in my last matches in 1.06 i was begining to number nazguls,pb and use only builder hotkey smile.gif i should train on hotkeys more i think , btw do u think i should use crossairs with orcs ? or this gonna be risky as it gonna be expensive to have easter + crossairs ?
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#6RanDoM'L0L  May 21 2014, 19:19 PM -
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I am going to reply later, as right now I am having my ninth beer because I am celebrating the A lvls that I have passed like a pro madafaka !!!
#7Nocturnal  May 21 2014, 19:35 PM -
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I am going to reply later, as right now I am having my ninth beer because I am celebrating the A lvls that I have passed like a pro madafaka !!!


Take ur time , also read again after u wake up xD , and congratulations smile.gif
#8RanDoM'L0L  May 22 2014, 17:22 PM -
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I didn't feel offended at all , u are right about my macro it is really bad , i have hard time spreading orcs and u were right about stopping his creeping as i should have known that his only chance to win is to creep , but i didn't understand the part of my micro , i think micro is about using stances and making ur units away from danger , and i used stances also when he charged with the cavalry i used defence stances and the orcs didn't die also when he used arrow volley i moved the orcs away , so please can u explain the micro part ? , actually i think using a ram was a bad decision as it is risky a bit and i think it would be better to use mountain trolls at least they could defend themselves but it was a fun decision smile.gif , also i gonna try to use hotkeys i know about them but it was really difficult , in my last matches in 1.06 i was begining to number nazguls,pb and use only builder hotkey smile.gif i should train on hotkeys more i think , btw do u think i should use crossairs with orcs ? or this gonna be risky as it gonna be expensive to have easter + crossairs ?


Creeping was not his chance to win, but to survive few minutes longer in this case biggrin.gif.

Micro includes spreading orcs that you have not done. Stances are good to be used but you know how far you were from using them well or at least in all situations.

Micro is also trying to go around his units with orcs and avoid the clash. By micro I mean clumping your orcs in his archers if you are forced to fight them. It also stands behind blocking his way to any of your buildings with orcs and not just to click the attack command and wait what happens. Also whenever he tried to crush your orcs, thats the time to pull orcs behind pikes and use them as a shield instead of just putting defend stance and wait for a miracle. That's what stands for micro requested in game you have played(I did not mention nazzgul as he was barely used in the game).

Ram is good to be used while in a clump of orcs. Do not always only think about fortress when you head towards the opponents base with ram, as only damaging it does not bring you any real favour. Try to take out barrackes or even lvlved up farms in case you are not absolutely sure you can take the fort down with the ram.
For the record, I praised the idea of you using the ram, not the way you used it.
Mountain trolls are very good in case you have hard time defending your opponents horse/SoG rush and nazzgul can not make it alone. Otherwise I would encourage you using drummer trolls with orcs/pike support.

At one point in a game you need to switch from pure orc spam to orc/pike spam and at another point of the game, you need to switch to corsair/pike spam. The thing is to catch the moment when to do it smile.gif.
#9Nocturnal  May 22 2014, 17:48 PM -
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Well said , thank u for explainning , i think i have to work about spreading orcs as i think it is the main proplem , also i have to manage to get nazz and easter faster and then surprize the enemy with trolls(drummer and mountain ) , also i should after that build few corssairs to better the heroes if there is any and to make a serious dmg to his building , i think i also need to use the power of mamukills so i may get them instead of trolls or crossairs as if the enemy is unprepared for a mamukill then it gonna be gg , i also need to train on hotkeys as u said , also try to avoid units , clump and block ,this is the points i manage to get from the review .
#10RanDoM'L0L  May 22 2014, 18:55 PM -
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I am glad you have got those points smile.gif. Using those hot-keys you will feel rigid first few games but then it is gonna flaw like nothing smile.gif.
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