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Dwarves vs MotW

#1Oliver de Clisson  Mar 17 2019, 00:14 AM -
gg

Weak Dwarves couldnt kill his ranger+heroes combo. He often sitting in his base and only defending. >:T Overall: MoD and axethrowers didnt deal enough damage. They should be a bit stronger. In this replay the motw rangers shoot (why they changed the shooting animation to this op fast firing rate in Patch 1.05 and was kept in all patches until 1.09 also). In and until Patch 1.04 it was nicely smooth and balancded, like in RotWK because of that) them both dead very fast.
The motw also together with pp destroying all upgraded armys and heroes I threw at him. Maybe I should get those dwarven heroes faster.
This post has been edited by Johann Tilly: Oct 6 2019, 14:26 PM
#2SilverBane  Mar 17 2019, 22:25 PM -
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lol

dude, dwarves absolutely destroy motw if played properly. The only times it might be hard for dwarf player is early game (where a properly done soldier double barracks spam can be devastating) and ultra late-game with level 10 gandalf aragorn and all that stuff - and even then its pretty much tied.
Men do not have a debuff. that means you can always have 75% armor buffed dwarves vs motw which are very very hard to kill especially if upgraded. you can always strike from multiple sides too. Early gimli is deadly for motw, absolutely owning any hero except aragorn and even then its rough for ara.
Dain level 7 cancels horn and cloudbreak/elendil. Gimli slayer + mighty rage is the ultimate killing machine. Gloin's level 10 is just as good as word of power but it has shorter cooldown. Do i have to mention it currently one hits army of the dead too?
Dwarves dont need archers to win. axes are only truly useful if he spams lots of gondor archers which he probably wont do anyways. dont try to counter rangers with archers, just rush his base instead. Dwarf ranged units definately DONT need to be buffed in general. You dont want to have a faction with both sturdiest/hardest hitting heroes/infantry and very strong archers.
This post has been edited by SilverBane: Mar 19 2019, 20:48 PM
#3Oliver de Clisson  Mar 20 2019, 15:10 PM -
QUOTE(SilverBane @ Mar 17 2019, 22:25 PM)




OK (Thumb up) I should get the dwarven heroes much faster (this was my mistake, I bought them too late, because of that they werent able to reach level 10 and get their strongest abilitys | While the oponnent did get earlier his heroes and because of that he brought them faster to level 10 and it was too late for me) and get more guardians/pikes and no ranged units. I tried too long to do it with range units+melee units but they didnt worked against motw.

In exchange of no archery units some more BW`s/Catapults or Rams and even more guardians and phalanxes I guess.

Thx for your tip.
This post has been edited by Johann Tilly: Mar 27 2019, 18:53 PM
#4Oliver de Clisson  Mar 27 2019, 18:47 PM -
QUOTE(SilverBane @ Mar 17 2019, 22:25 PM)
lol

dude, dwarves absolutely destroy motw if played properly. The only times it might be hard for dwarf player is early game (where a properly done soldier double barracks spam can be devastating) and ultra late-game with level 10 gandalf aragorn and all that stuff - and even then its pretty much tied.
Men do not have a debuff. that means you can always have 75% armor buffed dwarves vs motw which are very very hard to kill especially if upgraded. you can always strike from multiple sides too. Early gimli is deadly for motw, absolutely owning any hero except aragorn and even then its rough for ara.
Dain level 7 cancels horn and cloudbreak/elendil. Gimli slayer + mighty rage is the ultimate killing machine. Gloin's level 10 is just as good as word of power but it has shorter cooldown. Do i have to mention it currently one hits army of the dead too?
Dwarves dont need archers to win. axes are only truly useful if he spams lots of gondor archers which he probably wont do anyways. dont try to counter rangers with archers, just rush his base instead. Dwarf ranged units definately DONT need to be buffed in general. You dont want to have a faction with both sturdiest/hardest hitting heroes/infantry and very strong archers.


Thanks for your explanations.
#5SCloud  Apr 8 2019, 03:46 AM -
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Actually motw are weak vs dwarves. MOTW are considered the weakest faction in general. I still remember whole pages about how gimli rapes men heroes, and pretty much remember otto mad about how ,the 1100 tier 1 hero, gloin level 10 owns army of the dead biggrin.gif that he vowed to make the poor gloin dies from a touch of them !! biggrin.gif
#6Oliver de Clisson  Apr 9 2019, 19:55 PM -
QUOTE(SCloud @ Yesterday, 03:46 AM)
Actually motw are weak vs dwarves. MOTW are considered the weakest faction in general. I still remember whole pages about how gimli rapes men heroes, and pretty much remember otto mad about how ,the 1100 tier 1 hero, gloin level 10 owns army of the dead biggrin.gif that he vowed to make the poor gloin dies from a touch of them !! biggrin.gif


Yes, I didnt get the heroes fast, that was a main mistake.
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