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#1FabledIntegral  Feb 2 2007, 08:05 AM -
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Alright guys. I'm posting this because I felt it was a gg. Common mentality is that Isengard < Elves. Well I started thinking about it, and most people go the PP route: Palantir --> Wildmen --> Warchant --> Industry --> Watcher --> Dragonstrike.

Well I've always loved FtF as a PP, even in 1.04, but of course it's more effective now with the extra laborer, lower CP cost, and cheaper mills. So if it takes 15 pp to get to industry (WC + Industry = 15 pp), why not just hit FtF? So Isengard basically is the insane eco faction, always been that way. So I figured, instead of going the typical "Isengard upgrades" whcih generally involves Isen hardcore defending the furnaces, why don't you just SPAM those units like crazy and view them as expendable, like the other two FoD factions. Well sure, they cost more, but your economy more than makes up for it. No other faction has the spammability as Isengard. I used the tactic vs Deadshot in my last VoD that I uploaded vs a Mordor and won fairly easy. This is vs an Elf. At times I cashfloated, NOT because I wasn't managing my money, but because I was always at my CP limit. So yeah, I wanted Saruman too, but CP sad.gif. I DID build an armory, or queue one, but it had that builder glitch where it doesn't go through or something, so I had to build it twice...

Review please, sorry for the long explanation, good Isengard tactic imho.

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This post has been edited by FabledIntegral: Feb 14 2007, 02:11 AM
#2  Feb 2 2007, 09:53 AM -
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1.01 or 1.02?
#3Knockout  Feb 2 2007, 16:12 PM -
isen mid-late game economy is insane indeed, tell me about it.
#4  Feb 2 2007, 17:12 PM -
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Mine.

Btw Fabled, it would've been great if you would've gotten armory.

VERY nice unit spam.
#5  Feb 2 2007, 18:42 PM -
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Game version BT 1.02

RotW contender and Silver Replay

Game summary

Very impressive game by two very impressive players. FabledIntegral managed to basically implement unit spam into Isengard's game by building strong economy and strong production forces.

Tbh this strategy is so good when used the right way that it's very hard to beat for anything else than Mordor and Goblins.

Conclusion about the game: Fabled is so OP on BfME2 that it's not even funny.

One of CH1LD's last games. To be respected for the high level and gg.

IPB Image[EGC]FinalTier* aka FabledIntegral


VERY nice implementation of unit spam into isengard's strong economy and units. This strat is truly a masterful one and deserves to be mentioned; there is no way that expensive unit factions like elves could match it. Against elves just owned.

Armory would've helped you quite a bit in some parts of the game. Upgrades own elves. Also you possibly could've set up a nice forward base in which from to spam units.

You nicely used palantir in early game to take out enemy buildings and builder.

You could've maybe used a bit more pressure on CH1LD, just pressure him with everything you got and don't hold back a single bit.

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Very sad to see you go. sad.gif I respect you as a person and as a player and truly; a loss to see you leaving.

Onto the review..

Your game was very nice and you just couldn't handle the isen unit spam.

Possibly mirkwoods would've helped you; in mixture with lancers and pikes mirkwoods can deal HUGE amounts of damage to isen units and two battalions of them win even wargs. Also the cloak ability is simply amazing.

You should've maybe harassed a bit more with your lancers, would've benefitted you.

Try to get some early game expansion to get units out faster.

Ratings
[EGC]FinalTier*: 7/10
x32||Jordan: 6/10

Game: 7/10

#6CH1LD  Feb 2 2007, 18:45 PM -
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GAAAAAAAAA. Fabled I was the one who did this to you first sleep.gif.

In our isen mordor game biggrin.gif.

Either way gj =]



AND JUST FYI FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME. GREAT7=JORDAN and i am x32||DeioN` tongue.gif
This post has been edited by CH1LD: Feb 2 2007, 18:46 PM
#7FabledIntegral  Feb 2 2007, 20:14 PM -
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QUOTE(CH1LD @ Feb 2 2007, 10:45 AM) *

GAAAAAAAAA. Fabled I was the one who did this to you first sleep.gif.

In our isen mordor game biggrin.gif.

Either way gj =]
AND JUST FYI FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME. GREAT7=JORDAN and i am x32||DeioN` tongue.gif


Did you? I watched the replay and your strat was COMPLETELY different. So idk. You def played well and outplayed me that game, but I think this strat is very very different.
#8great7  Feb 2 2007, 20:39 PM -
QUOTE(CH1LD @ Feb 2 2007, 01:45 PM) *

GAAAAAAAAA. Fabled I was the one who did this to you first sleep.gif.

In our isen mordor game biggrin.gif.

Either way gj =]
AND JUST FYI FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME. GREAT7=JORDAN and i am x32||DeioN` tongue.gif

lol at least he was complimenting you.
this was by far my worst play against you in the 3x we played this mu but it wazs still a good game and your play definitely deserrved silver gg fabled tongue.gif.
This post has been edited by great7: Feb 2 2007, 20:41 PM
#9CH1LD  Feb 2 2007, 21:47 PM -
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lol ya thx raist wub.gif.

Really fabled?

Well i didnt watch the rep. But i was the first one to play isen in a aggressive harass at all costs double uruk pit spam mentality (i actually ahve done this only once vs you but in probaly 5 games vs great7 and i did this the second time i played as isen in 06 ever).

But i did change your strat(at least i would think) for isen mordor (previously fast pike and creep) when the best for that matchup is by far a 3 uruk star.

You have made alot mroe strats than me so tongue.gif
This post has been edited by CH1LD: Feb 2 2007, 22:23 PM
#10CH1LD  Feb 2 2007, 22:02 PM -
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nvm fabled i was thinking of teh wrong game tongue.gif
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