i like this mu, couse in my opinion it shows a really good step to balance! in rotwk this mu is nearly impossible to win if bth players have nearly same skills! rotwk patch makers should watch on the balance of this mu in bfme2 1.09 to make rotwk better!
this mu is pretty balanced imo, even more if isen is offhost! didnt watch the game yet, but theres defo a way to win this as dwarfe, love how ppl made that mu so much better!
What are you talking about... Can I start with the match ups from each patch (1.09/2.02)? I can be the devil if you want. I can start with Mordor vs Isengard. That match up is broken if you use the term "players with nearly same skills". Mordor should win that match up 80% of the games. I can go further. Isengard vs Dwarves is a problem on patch 2.02? Tell me more. Another match up that needs some explanation is literally MotW vs Elves here, you need your sweet host and cavalry if not you are screwed. More? Stop blaming and trash talking about something you dont understand.
This post has been edited by Andy San: May 5 2017, 12:02 PM
Let's start speak about if 1.09 is more balanced thant 2.02 ^^.
If you have some report to do about DW vs Isen MU pls post in balance forum and we will try to discover OUR errors/unbalances and you (AND ME) can obtain better answer on how to play this MU.
EDIT: we all know that bfme2 1.00 is most balanced and competitive games of EVER!. only pros there. to play it you have to be at least grandmaster in sc2, lol and counterstrike.
This post has been edited by Mako: May 5 2017, 12:00 PM
You guys are being a tad too defensive, Andy and Mako. Turgons post isnt flaming anyone. Keep it civil, you are both staff, disappointing. Besides, 2.02 has hardly any matchup specific scalars, we have hundreds if not thousands. Without that its just common sense that you cant achieve as good balance wise. Global changes will only get you so far. I personally feel that we dont have any terrible matchups left, we achieved a lot in a 3 year beta as you would expect, and 2 years beta for 1.08. And really the only person who has played both 202 and 109 long term is Archangel, Andy you haven't played it for very long by point of comparison.
2.02 has some hard match ups and the Mordor vs Isengard or the MotW vs Elves is playable here. I just dont like when someone says 2.02 needs 1.09 approach because it's better, he just dont understand. Dont get me wrong, I like both games because there is lot of new game mechanics. I do enjoy your work but this kind of posts...
This post has been edited by Andy San: May 5 2017, 19:33 PM
What are you talking about... Can I start with the match ups from each patch (1.09/2.02)? I can be the devil if you want. I can start with Mordor vs Isengard. That match up is broken if you use the term "players with nearly same skills". Mordor should win that match up 80% of the games. I can go further. Isengard vs Dwarves is a problem on patch 2.02? Tell me more. Another match up that needs some explanation is literally MotW vs Elves here, you need your sweet host and cavalry if not you are screwed. More? Stop blaming and trash talking about something you dont understand.
seems like u get offended here sorry man.. think its possible to discuss stuff with u in a calm and rational way lol... im sorry if i hurt ur feelings. i was only talking aboutt he isengard vs dwarfe match up, that i think is more balanced in bfme 2 ! didnt even mention any other mus! of course in bfme 2 other mus are pretty hard or imba! im refering to dwarfe vs isen, and only this.
so calm down and accept other opinions without calling them ppl dumb or no clue what they talking about
seems like u get offended here sorry man.. think its possible to discuss stuff with u in a calm and rational way lol... im sorry if i hurt ur feelings. i was only talking aboutt he isengard vs dwarfe match up, that i think is more balanced in bfme 2 ! didnt even mention any other mus! of course in bfme 2 other mus are pretty hard or imba! im refering to dwarfe vs isen, and only this.
so calm down and accept other opinions without calling them ppl dumb or no clue what they talking about
if you cant overcome that match up on rotwk it's your own problem. cheers.
