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Battle for Middle Earth 2 1.06

Skilled game of isengard against MotW heroes :-)

#1RanDoM'L0L  Jun 25 2010, 17:46 PM -
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Okay guys, I am new member of GR.org and i uploaded this replay because i think it is quite hard to beat well controled MotW heroes ...I used pike spam but i dont think it was the best...I would hear some suggestions from you to me because I really hate when someone beat me because of "hero spam" biggrin.gif ... btw. I normally dont make heroes but at this game, I just had to do that ... sad.gif ..so guys, I hope you will enjoy this game and give me some advice...thank you for everything biggrin.gif
#2Mithandrir  Jun 26 2010, 15:08 PM -
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Wow wow wow. I think I have never seen such a game.

First of all the motw was a noob. He never a strategy, that might lead to a win. I was camping all the time, just harassing with his horses time by time. He should have taken aod, collect some more ppīs and try a final attack, but nvm...
Since he was noob he did a good job with the heroes. But I can tell you, his hero-usage was ok, thereīs are more ways, how he can get on your nerves wink.gif

Your early game was ok. From middle to lategame, your strategy was a pain, you were spamming units all the time without any plan, so you were wasting the units, while the heroes of your enemy reached easily high rankings.

Always get Lurtz first. Get him level 4 before you try crazy things. Dont use him on sword fighting other heroes, he got no chance. When he is level 4, first of all you need to cripple one hero! Dont use swordattack first, you will fail. Cripple Aragorn or Gandalf, in fact in your situation it makes no differnce, because Isen is too op do anything wrong tbh. After that attack this hero with your pikes and use Lurtz speciell power.
Your Saruman was a joke too. Dont use fireball vs boromir, towers or sth. like that. Use it to kill units, or throw aragorn or gandalf away, while lurtz is dealing with the other one. Never use his sword attack, he is no fighter! Use his powers, put him on defense mode and get him back. Try to hide him in your army. His leadership will help alot.
Wormtongue is death sentence for every army. Before you do anything else use his level 1 power on the adversary heroes. You will be slow and weak, so very easy to kill. Like Saruman, never every fight with him. Put him on defense, get him back into your pikes. You can use his poison attack in a good moment, but thatīs not important.
Ok, that are some basics for Isen heroes. Always keep in mind, they are faster than motw heroes. If one of them is in danger, get him out. MotW canīt stop them! You lost your heroes all the time without any reason...

Bringing this things together, you did one huge mistake all the time. Afair you never had your 3 heroes together. Every hero is strong, but together they are instopable. Is one hero is dead and you are waiting for him, dont do risky things like running around with units all the time. These are easy kills for gandalf and friends.
With your op upgraded isen pikes you got perfect units, but use stances! (not that formation bug, thatīs cheap and ridiculous). Put them on defense and gandalf canīt kill them. Combined with some leadership you wonīt see any damage after gandalfīs blast.
#3RanDoM'L0L  Jun 26 2010, 18:55 PM -
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Wow wow wow. I think I have never seen such a game.

First of all the motw was a noob. He never a strategy, that might lead to a win. I was camping all the time, just harassing with his horses time by time. He should have taken aod, collect some more pp�s and try a final attack, but nvm...
Since he was noob he did a good job with the heroes. But I can tell you, his hero-usage was ok, there�s are more ways, how he can get on your nerves wink.gif

Your early game was ok. From middle to lategame, your strategy was a pain, you were spamming units all the time without any plan, so you were wasting the units, while the heroes of your enemy reached easily high rankings.

Always get Lurtz first. Get him level 4 before you try crazy things. Dont use him on sword fighting other heroes, he got no chance. When he is level 4, first of all you need to cripple one hero! Dont use swordattack first, you will fail. Cripple Aragorn or Gandalf, in fact in your situation it makes no differnce, because Isen is too op do anything wrong tbh. After that attack this hero with your pikes and use Lurtz speciell power.
Your Saruman was a joke too. Dont use fireball vs boromir, towers or sth. like that. Use it to kill units, or throw aragorn or gandalf away, while lurtz is dealing with the other one. Never use his sword attack, he is no fighter! Use his powers, put him on defense mode and get him back. Try to hide him in your army. His leadership will help alot.
Wormtongue is death sentence for every army. Before you do anything else use his level 1 power on the adversary heroes. You will be slow and weak, so very easy to kill. Like Saruman, never every fight with him. Put him on defense, get him back into your pikes. You can use his poison attack in a good moment, but that�s not important.
Ok, that are some basics for Isen heroes. Always keep in mind, they are faster than motw heroes. If one of them is in danger, get him out. MotW can�t stop them! You lost your heroes all the time without any reason...

Bringing this things together, you did one huge mistake all the time. Afair you never had your 3 heroes together. Every hero is strong, but together they are instopable. Is one hero is dead and you are waiting for him, dont do risky things like running around with units all the time. These are easy kills for gandalf and friends.
With your op upgraded isen pikes you got perfect units, but use stances! (not that formation bug, that�s cheap and ridiculous). Put them on defense and gandalf can�t kill them. Combined with some leadership you won�t see any damage after gandalf�s blast.

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
1) Thank you for that you commended me for my early game(cause it was my max. biggrin.gif )
2) I normaly dont make heroes at all, what can be a big mistake as you told me...and thats why i didnt use them right as you told me ...
3)Gandalf pissed me off so much that I were sending there units like blind from rage biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ...and btw. Lurtz is quite weak when you dont control him all the time... sad.gif
4)If you tell me MotW was a noob I feel a bit cheapened...biggrin.gif ...
5)I dont know any bug with pikes formation...can you describe it for me?(ofc for it I dont do it anymore tongue.gif ) ...and i thought if gandy is coming it is good to use purc. formation for pikes, or when Boromirs horn is used...isnt it?
Hmm..to summarise, thankyou for wathcing and comment smile.gif
#4Mithandrir  Jun 26 2010, 19:07 PM -
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4)If you tell me MotW was a noob I feel a bit cheapened...biggrin.gif ...

Well you are right, heīs not a noob. I just said this, because there is no real term for describing average player wink.gif
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5)I dont know any bug with pikes formation...can you describe it for me?(ofc for it I dont do it anymore tongue.gif ) ...and i thought if gandy is coming it is good to use purc. formation for pikes, or when Boromirs horn is used...isnt it?
Hmm..to summarise, thankyou for wathcing and comment smile.gif

Most guys wonīt call it a bug. Imo it is no real bug, itīs more a like a poor move. That speciell formation should be used to protect archers or some spots on the map. It shouldnīt be used as an armour bonus vs speciell attacks. I never do this, but most players do not care about this, so itīs up to you.
#5RanDoM'L0L  Jun 26 2010, 20:30 PM -
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Ah, okay, I didnt know that but I think I will use it cause as you told me its no the bug..hm, anyway thx for all your advices smile.gif
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