Battle for Middle Earth 2 1.06

catapault would have been a stroke of genius, but people do not think to make them because they are so easy to kill and cost so much. But as the game was, me having no real units, as well elrol and I on the backfoot most of the game, their armies with catapaults would have killed me yes. Rohirrum would be a great counter to spiderlings however the way this game was played rohirrum would be strictly on the defensive becasue I had lots of spiderlings (which I made because they are cheap and effective and I didn't have much money until later) and goblins attacking constantly once I got back going. Rohirrum were not made becasue I destroyed the stable to stop horses and for some reason, which I already noted, they did not rebuild. He made tower guards because they take more damage than soldiers and I also had spiderlings out and everywhere. Tower guards can also go into porcipine and keep rangers out of damage from goblinspam and when an elf attacks they take much more damage from archers than soldiers. Also with the number of rangers they had, once you see spiderlings you expect riders to appear. Aragon might have killed my fort but spiderling expansions do a good job with heroes I think.

Glorfindel is considered lame to some of us, as well as the fort eagle. In my opinion arwen's damage to buildings is what glorf's should be, except glorf has splash/more armor and health. Fort eagle would have screwed us over becasue we did not have that money, (if you didn't notice we were never in any good position throughout most the game) also they had rangerspam from both sides.

I insisted on spiderlingspam because there were no rohirrum, and archers would kill trolls/pikes and goblins needed some way to get by.(rangers go after spiderlings, goblins can make it to farms). Elf hero might be better than mithlonds with armor, depends which hero, but an elf army would kill an elf hero. Take most any hero and put its equivalent in units and you will kill the hero.

Mirkwood archers are not "op". They, with their buildtime/cost of actually getting them, are not bad at all. The fact is, we didn't have money. And a spam of loriens will last longer than a mirk will under rangers and boro. You have to be very careful with mirkwood archers because of how long they take to build.



and motherfricker I welcome the fact that you will try to get away from towers, you will start learning to play better now. What can I say motherfricker, we do not all play as you do.

I saw elrols armie run up to the hill to go fight the mens, he sees boro and runs back,lol. that made me laugh i saw that like 3 times. Thats the only reason i make glor vs mens, cuz of OP horn. Horn is lame. if im elf id rather fight vs 2 aras than an Ara/Boro.

Game title is "Very skilled 2v2 - Don´t get double gandalf".
First of all you shouldn´t call your own games "very skilled". Only other people can decide wether it´s skilled or not. Besides that, that game was not very skilled, it´s average.
Np at all, but what does the TO mean with the gandalfs? I was expecting to see how you can conter gandalf, or at least how you win a game vs two motw players.
All I see is a bad use of gandalf and huge mistakes, so that the motw lost the game just to eagles.
So what I wanted to say is, that if you are using some "sensational" game titles, that raise expectations, you shouldn´t be suprised, if you get negativ feedback.

I didn't make the game title and I thought you were talking about desk's comment being "deceptive", not the gametitle itself. Though if you were looking for a perfectly played replay due to the title you are right. Then again if you were looking for amazing play due simply to the title of the game I'm sure you've been disappointed several hundred times in your life. We all know of the quality in gr replays ( I beat so and so lets post it!, Lamer did such and such to me and I killed him!)

Most people win games becasue the other makes mistakes, I do believe thats how games are won.

The title says don't get two gandalfs because in game I was telling otto how buying gandalf is how they ultimately ended up losing the game, I mean 5,000 gets you quite a few units, upgrades, and fort defence; and, after looking at my meager base all game it seems like if he had applied that money better I would have not fared so well.

I thought the game was pretty fun to be honest. I don't know how many 2v2s you play (as far as I know you rarely do 2v2s except in tourney games and stick mainly to 3v3/4v4), but this was pretty nice as 2v2s go when you are playing on 1.6. (Don't bring any of your cw hate to this please, I have played both 1.6 and the cw patches and the level of play *expansion/spam/defense/etc* are on average better *at least the people I played with* you always get the idiots that arn't good who think they are amazing simply because they played cw. Me, well I prefer 1.6 playing with friends and actually having games, even if they arn't always on that level.)

The title says skilled players because we had 2 or 3 tourney pros in the game therefore skilled hehhheh I don't know if zeno guy plays tourney or not.

Really you just need to compare the game with the number that go on throughout the day. I play mainly 2v2/1v1, and, as games go on 1.6, this was pretty nice regardless of the mistakes made by players. Also in comparison with the other games that say "skilled players" or "well played" this one might be a bit better.

And there was much more to the loss then just the eagles, as you said many mistakes contributed to their loss and the eagle was merely the instrument in their loss.

*** Forgot to add this into the post, titles have always been deceptive to get people to watch them. I have posted several good games that don't have interesting titles that are rarely looked at and much less commented on where the games of the reputable gr folk are widely publicized yet poor in quality. Besides there names, how do they get views? They put in their flashy titles and draw people in. Then arguments develop in their posts and people begin to download/post in the replay and draw more people in.

I know. You see the title and expect an very entertaining game. While you are watching you think: what a crap. How often will you download and watch replays, if you get disappointed so often?
It´s far too late now for this replay section to change this behaviour, but it´s still not right or clever.

Its nice to see Zeno playing again tbh, hes KiNG0FLaMe, a tourny pro bk in the day.

Haha your right mith. I never liked the standards for replays at this site since I first came. There is always a chance for change here, it just depends if the site could monitor the replays posted and just remove the bad ones. After a while people would stop posting their inane replays because they could never get any attention for them. Maybe replays shouldn't be posted until some staff member can read the description for it and watch it, but that asks for a bit much maybe.

As for the games that I get dissapointed in? I never bothered with most every replay unless there was something specific I wanted to see ( you killing people with heroes, some 2v1 that shelob did, games that had something to do with my thoughts in regards to the game). I never watched a replay to learn anything, and I never cared for what people thought "good games" were, more fun to play them in my opinion. I do watch replays now to see what "good" is considered to be, or to laugh at some people playing, but the standards, as we both have seen, are abysmally low. I still wouldn't put this as a bad game. Especially compared to the rest that are posted.

Gandalf costs 5000 resources. He should be able to pwn everything. If they get two Gandalfs, good for them, they deserve to win the game.

Wubbeeeed!

I understand Mith remarks. The end was pretty much anticlimatic. The game was enjoyable to watch, motw had clear upperhand, and i was hoping that with two gandalfs and two boros out we would see how one as gobs or elves would reverse that kind of situation. Was hoping some kind of great fight. My excitment built up during the game was completly destroyed by the wildmen/eagles summon. The sneak attack at the end wasnt the best scenario for a thrilling win

Still i enjoyed that you posted it. And, Sere/Elrol you have done well in hitting your opponent weakness and disregard the enjoyment of the observers or gamereplays watchers.