I'm not here to bash, and there were some good moves, but... Why do you guys not use the flanks as much as you use the middle? It is important to use the whole map to your advantage for scouting, attacking and distractions. In any MU, you want to stay aggressive while not wasting units, and you can only do this if you use both flanks and middle.
Don't be mistaken, there were some good moves like domberman using his gat/ovie/lotus combo at the end to put the game in the bag. And tactical had a fantastic 3 BM rush followed up by a full on attack right at dombermans door step, but after that, both of you played way to cautious. You guys should scout more to figure out where your next small scale or large scale attack with be.
Another BIG mistake that took me way to long to figure out myself, is having all your overlords in one group together. You don't have much map control by doing this, and one nuke is enough to make your whole army of overlords become useless for a short period of time. Try making more smaller groups of gat/overlord combos. One or two gats, with a speaker tower overlord or two works nicely.
One last thing, any time you have a nuke cannon, always have it under a speaker tower for maximum rate of fire. This is very important in CvC. One nuke under speaker tower is so incredibly powerful.
I'm not here to bash, and there were some good moves, but... Why do you guys not use the flanks as much as you use the middle? It is important to use the whole map to your advantage for scouting, attacking and distractions. In any MU, you want to stay aggressive while not wasting units, and you can only do this if you use both flanks and middle.
Don't be mistaken, there were some good moves like domberman using his gat/ovie/lotus combo at the end to put the game in the bag. And tactical had a fantastic 3 BM rush followed up by a full on attack right at dombermans door step, but after that, both of you played way to cautious. You guys should scout more to figure out where your next small scale or large scale attack with be.
Another BIG mistake that took me way to long to figure out myself, is having all your overlords in one group together. You don't have much map control by doing this, and one nuke is enough to make your whole army of overlords become useless for a short period of time. Try making more smaller groups of gat/overlord combos. One or two gats, with a speaker tower overlord or two works nicely.
One last thing, any time you have a nuke cannon, always have it under a speaker tower for maximum rate of fire. This is very important in CvC. One nuke under speaker tower is so incredibly powerful.
5/10 is my rating for this overall entertainment.
Well thx for reviewing our replay. I respect that for sure, and its good for the community.
I agree with that overlord group arguement^^
U were right in some points but i disagree in some others.
- The fight at td is about the middle (cvc) most of time (especially when someone plays midsupply!!!!), cause there is much money. The old good times, that someone rushs with 5 bms at flank, well, isnt much promising at all since ppl bunker fast and the flank bm rushing guy cries "bunker noob" lol
- Some pros told me a long time ago, never flank overlords...it could lead to an uber waste mostly. just scout there with 1 bm or 1 gat
Dont get me wrong...maybe its about our different playstyle, and i am really happy u took the time and watched the game...i was sure when i rewatched it that it isnt uber, just good.
But i dont think that using flanks more than middle at cvc is way better. I normally concentrate more at middle.
Look at the UBER Game Danzor vs Skynny. Both camped hardcore in the middle, used migs, lotus and nukes perfect. They didnt even scout with lotus, only for middle!!!! Cause lotus got needed at middle every time, they went only some steps to oil and back...
Ppl dont like campy games? Well rush games are most of time "all-in"-strats... to play a clean camp game is as hard as playin a rush game. Thats why danzor vs skynny got sooo many wubbs.
-EDIT- And well, this game was mid supply vs 2 wf!!!
This post has been edited by DoMbErMaN: May 4 2012, 11:52 AM
Mid Supply vs 2 Wf