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#1Murder-  Oct 10 2013, 00:52 AM -
Tried some strats ended up being a pretty good game very close! It was pretty laggy here and there so you might see some unit wasting but its entertaining I guess. Prolly the best game posted in awhile.
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#2squaak  Oct 10 2013, 20:01 PM -
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Tried some strats ended up being a pretty good game very close! It was pretty laggy here and there so you might see some unit wasting but its entertaining I guess. Prolly the best game posted in awhile.

That was a ZH bo I think.
It worked good at start cause Viking did a bo where he didn't go for the cars, so nice adaptation by you due to your spy drone.

Anyway raptor spamm can be very dangerous so early, since they've low armor and are not that good, except against scorps. Moreover they're very expansive.

The problem is that you didn't have the money for a start center during the whole game !!

Without S&D, gla basic units (Scorps/Quads) spammed massivly are superior to your units, due to hit and run attacks.
You have no tomahawks and not enough range/view for your units in order to attack tunnels with safety. CCG's rockvees are not zh's ones !

I was really positivly surprised by Viking's gla, which was pretty good this game. He adapted very well after seeing the first raptor and was very aggressive during the whole game.
#3Murder-  Oct 10 2013, 20:40 PM -
I think with a few tweaks here and there and no micro mistakes my strategy could work fine. At one point I lost a few raptors to a veteran quad. If I kept those 4 I had a good advantage. Did you see how rapidly they cleared the middle? tongue.gif

As far as I know 1 veteran upgrade raptor kills a scorpion. Shows they have a great potential when well executed! I think I was close to it in this replay. And would have won probably. Ofcourse it's a lot harder to play then the usual strategies, but when mastered probably unstoppable. I would have S&D sooner if I had the chance. tongue.gif
#4squaak  Oct 11 2013, 12:43 PM -
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I think with a few tweaks here and there and no micro mistakes my strategy could work fine. At one point I lost a few raptors to a veteran quad. If I kept those 4 I had a good advantage. Did you see how rapidly they cleared the middle? tongue.gif

As far as I know 1 veteran upgrade raptor kills a scorpion. Shows they have a great potential when well executed! I think I was close to it in this replay. And would have won probably. Ofcourse it's a lot harder to play then the usual strategies, but when mastered probably unstoppable. I would have S&D sooner if I had the chance. tongue.gif


Ye it can eventually work if gla just goes for dual supplies.
The bad point is that you have late rax, so very late flash upgrade at start.
I think the best to do for gla is to tunnel spamm a lot firstly, from the flanks to the middle, without really trying to attack usa's base, and taking all the buildings/bunker they can. Then just spamming quads to help defending against raptors, and going dual wf of course.

Since the raptors cost a lot, usa wouldn't be able to attack the tunnels and clear 1 side as fast as with the rockvee bo (you need 3 raptors = 4200$ to kill a tunnel).
During this precious time, gla can try to get the oils and just spamming units.

If usa goes to attack on 1 side without s&d, then a massive gla attack from the other side should be able to kill usa.

If usa camps more and wait for s&d, gla would have to go for middle supplies and more tunnel/stingers spamm just to slow down usa's attack. Since the usa's attack is delayed, usa would have collected all the money from unsafe supply, and be on 1 sup only, so if gla can hold the middle long enough, usa would die.
#5krew  Oct 11 2013, 21:39 PM -
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None the less, raptors can play key rolls in UvG. Upgraded ones will devastate. It just takes practice to know when to build them and how to micro them.
#6squaak  Oct 12 2013, 00:18 AM -
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None the less, raptors can play key rolls in UvG. Upgraded ones will devastate. It just takes practice to know when to build them and how to micro them.

Imo it's only usefull on big maps, at late game, it's very good against buggys and scorps.
But since it costs much money, you really only can afford them in 3v3 / 4v4 games.
#7krew  Oct 12 2013, 01:37 AM -
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I was thinking about mainly use them as support units more than just stand alone raptors targeting cheep units.
#8Murder-  Oct 12 2013, 03:05 AM -
They're excellent tunnel clearing units. Also would they work really well if you keep aiming quads at battles and then let raptors finish the scorps off. I honestly think I could make this BO work with some more practice and some changes here and there.
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#9krew  Oct 12 2013, 03:15 AM -
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vs china, if you're awesome. Raptors can be super awesome vs overlords.
#10meany  Oct 12 2013, 09:33 AM -
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Raptors are the only one who could beat upgraded ovies.
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