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#1-CyborG- ZH  Nov 19 2018, 19:22 PM -
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2v2 Fallen Empire
was very fun to play xD
#2fastAiR  Nov 19 2018, 20:18 PM -
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I have a theory about this map. Its chit, but why?
- Unsafe supply truly is unsafe, you might as well just replace it with a china wf really
- The map is not balanced. Its 2 unbalanced 1v1s going on, bottom right corner and top left corner have a clear advantage from having a smaller space to defend due to the patches of water. Yea each team benefits from it, but if im vs the smaller gap then im 100% at a disadvantage personally. Sure my mate benefits from a small gap also but his enemy also at disadvantage.

Why people choose this map as the go to 2v2 map is beyond me really, the wall alone is retarded. People think the bottle necks on TI are bad, then what about this chit?
No game lasts longer then 10 minutes (maybe thats good) and the unsafe supply is only ever secured by the victor.
#3-CyborG- ZH  Nov 19 2018, 20:59 PM -
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QUOTE(JarmenElectra @ Today, 20:18 PM)
I have a theory about this map. Its chit, but why?
- Unsafe supply truly is unsafe, you might as well just replace it with a china wf really
- The map is not balanced. Its 2 unbalanced 1v1s going on, bottom right corner and top left corner have a clear advantage from having a smaller space to defend due to the patches of water. Yea each team benefits from it, but if im vs the smaller gap then im 100% at a disadvantage personally. Sure my mate benefits from a small gap also but his enemy also at disadvantage.

Why people choose this map as the go to 2v2 map is beyond me really, the wall alone is retarded. People think the bottle necks on TI are bad, then what about this chit?
No game lasts longer then 10 minutes (maybe thats good) and the unsafe supply is only ever secured by the victor.

yes very true, it's unbalanced AF but i like it and i play for fun as everyone knows XD.

but TI isn't the best map though, Tournament Tundra is the best map ever made for 2v2
very balanced imo.
#4-CyborG- ZH  Nov 19 2018, 21:43 PM -
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QUOTE(JarmenElectra @ Today, 20:18 PM)
I have a theory about this map. Its chit, but why?
- Unsafe supply truly is unsafe, you might as well just replace it with a china wf really
- The map is not balanced. Its 2 unbalanced 1v1s going on, bottom right corner and top left corner have a clear advantage from having a smaller space to defend due to the patches of water. Yea each team benefits from it, but if im vs the smaller gap then im 100% at a disadvantage personally. Sure my mate benefits from a small gap also but his enemy also at disadvantage.

Why people choose this map as the go to 2v2 map is beyond me really, the wall alone is retarded. People think the bottle necks on TI are bad, then what about this chit?
No game lasts longer then 10 minutes (maybe thats good) and the unsafe supply is only ever secured by the victor.

watch the replay tho
#5fastAiR  Nov 19 2018, 21:56 PM -
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QUOTE(-CyborG- ZH @ Today, 21:43 PM)

watch the replay tho

I will tomorrow, let you know what I think biggrin.gif
#6fastAiR  Nov 20 2018, 19:19 PM -
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*Big Spoiler!!





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gg man was very close at some points mid-game. Shame about your mate who closed on like 2 kills. If you had won that game somehow in your final position, then you would deserve an expert badge. I was like is he just going to keep sniping quads until he has like 30 of them and win?? Lol could have been possible if you had your ambush to fill them with haha

I had a similar game once vs jewjitsu. Me tank him tox, he had nothing left except a palace. He stayed in the game for like a further 10 minutes in this position. I had like 3 hackers as well so although I had full base had no eco to defeat the palace. I just quit in the end as im not that bothered for wins, however I told Jewjistu I would never play him again for that. He then insisted in the lobby that he could have won, but im pretty sure a Palace cant sprout legs and come over to my base LOL

I have put your Big Spoiler into a little spoiler, because it reveals the outcome of the game. // Leikeze
This post has been edited by Leikeze: Nov 24 2018, 17:08 PM
#7-CyborG- ZH  Nov 21 2018, 17:11 PM -
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QUOTE(JarmenElectra @ Yesterday, 19:19 PM)
*Big Spoiler!!





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gg man was very close at some points mid-game. Shame about your mate who closed on like 2 kills. If you had won that game somehow in your final position, then you would deserve an expert badge. I was like is he just going to keep sniping quads until he has like 30 of them and win?? Lol could have been possible if you had your ambush to fill them with haha

I had a similar game once vs jewjitsu. Me tank him tox, he had nothing left except a palace. He stayed in the game for like a further 10 minutes in this position. I had like 3 hackers as well so although I had full base had no eco to defeat the palace. I just quit in the end as im not that bothered for wins, however I told Jewjistu I would never play him again for that. He then insisted in the lobby that he could have won, but im pretty sure a Palace cant sprout legs and come over to my base LOL

lol i played a bit bad
anyway, if u have the replay share with us i'd like to watch lol
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#8fastAiR  Nov 21 2018, 19:06 PM -
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QUOTE(-CyborG- ZH @ Today, 17:11 PM)

lol i played a bit bad
anyway, if u have the replay share with us i'd like to watch lol

Hmmn strangely not, I save probably 80% of 1v1 and 2v2s tbh so odd I dont have it although it is old but I think I never intended to watch that crap again tbh.

Whilst looking for it I did find a random game vs you from ages ago (maybe a year) idk, I havent watched it and dont recall who wins or what happens but its uplaoded here if you want to watch it (im going to watch it in a sec hopefully its a good game biggrin.gif
https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...;#entry10172414

And if you really want to watch Jewjistu, in my uploaded replays I have one where I beat his AFG with long range man spam. If you click replays under my name you should see it in the list.

PS I dont have any problem with jitsu was just frustrating at the time, but I will always think twice playing anyone like that in 1v1
#9-CyborG- ZH  Nov 21 2018, 20:11 PM -
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QUOTE(JarmenElectra @ Today, 19:06 PM)

Hmmn strangely not, I save probably 80% of 1v1 and 2v2s tbh so odd I dont have it although it is old but I think I never intended to watch that crap again tbh.

Whilst looking for it I did find a random game vs you from ages ago (maybe a year) idk, I havent watched it and dont recall who wins or what happens but its uplaoded here if you want to watch it (im going to watch it in a sec hopefully its a good game biggrin.gif
https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...;#entry10172414

And if you really want to watch Jewjistu, in my uploaded replays I have one where I beat his AFG with long range man spam. If you click replays under my name you should see it in the list.

PS I dont have any problem with jitsu was just frustrating at the time, but I will always think twice playing anyone like that in 1v1

i've replayed
#10Leikeze  Nov 24 2018, 18:07 PM -
MGI (Stealth) & DR^Strange (Nuke) vs NoobsNeedSome (China) & JustALittleN (Tox) on Fallen Empire


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This is not a very good game. The team work was spotty, and the action was composed of wasting loads of Quads to Scorpions. The real criminal behind this is MGI, who just would not end the game, despite having the clear late-game advantage, so things get drawn out way longer than they should have.

Team 1
  • MGI: Quads do not counter Scorpions, that's why you build a Palace. Also, once you know the game is won, please do not force other players to go on thinking they've got a chance. It is mean.
  • DR*Strange: Just when you were getting back into the game, you lose your Helix to his one in the middle, a tragic moment. But the tragedy of your time in this game could have been avoided, simply by telling MGI to learn how to play defensive, spamming tunnels, instead of wasting dozens of Quads. That way you could have gone for Overlords to counter his Scorpions, and you wouldn't have lost the unsafe supply, or your base, and probably wouldn't have had to rely on that lucky bomber to save your team.

Team 2
  • NoobsNeedSome: Noobs need some what? Your first supply placement made it so the trucks had to do a 180 every time to collect. When you saw his BM coming, you preemptively moved your trucks around the top of the supply, but instead of moving them out of his path, you inadvertently moved them into his path, causing you to lose 1 of them, and have the other one slowed down due to damage. Then you didn't pay attention to the BM that he was driving around your base, causing you to lose another truck, and because of your negligence with the defense of your base, you subsequently lost your WF and supply to his lone Dragon tank. Following course, you lost the rest of your base by the 4:30 mark. This was not a good way to start the game. A beacon may have been helpful.
  • When it comes to the top middle supply, a beacon would have been very helpful, as it would have alerted your ally to the fact that you are only in the game based on whether or not you can keep collecting from that supply long enough to retake your main one. Sadly, this was not the case for you in this game.
  • Flying your Helix into his Helix(and his allies quad) without thinking about the repercussions was only going to end badly for you. I still wouldn't have quit out, because you had to potential to retake your main supply, and possibly get to 3 stars, allowing you to use your bomber and other powers, which could have been very helpful.
  • JustALittleN: Nice aggressive start, however, you should not have lost that Super Technical you had by DR^Strange's unsafe supply. Had you kept that Super Tech, you could have gone around harassing like a boss, hunting dozers, dragons, supply trucks 7& workers, power plants, barracks, un-tunneled safe supplies, etc., etc. It was a very sad moment to see it lost.
  • You should have gotten your Palace much earlier on in this game, around the 6 minute mark it should have been finished, or maybe earlier. Had you gotten just one bus you could have totally screwed his Quad MGI's Quad spam, two buses, with Kell in one, and you could have flipped him strategy on his head, and paraded into his base, relatively care free.
  • Maximum Cash Bounty trumps late game rebel ambush, because it pays off so well while you are on a rampage like you had been.

2/10
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