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Strategy help China v VS Laser

#1BoNeS l CRuSHeR^  Oct 24 2020, 05:48 AM -
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at the start i did scuba strategy going straight for migs and it worked i killed a lot of rockvees
then i didn't know what to do should i go 2 WF and spam gats
or go another airfield or risk the doz and going 3trd supply
in the game i went CC and prop center
but i lost to 2 warfactory spam
and BTW who is this guys does anyone know him?
he is good
#2fastAiR  Oct 24 2020, 07:23 AM -
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QUOTE(BoNeS l CRuSHeR^ @ Today, 05:48 AM)
at the start i did scuba strategy going straight for migs and it worked i killed a lot of rockvees
then i didn't know what to do should i go 2 WF and spam gats
or go another airfield or risk the doz and going 3trd supply
in the game i went CC and prop center
but i lost to 2 warfactory spam
and BTW who is this guys does anyone know him?
he is good

He is a member here https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index...showuser=375802
#3BoNeS l CRuSHeR^  Oct 24 2020, 07:28 AM -
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QUOTE(fastAiR @ Today, 10:23 AM)

y i know, this doesn't show who he is
he changed his name last month
am guessing he is noobfighter in new account maybe idk
he have the same signature quote as mine
another fan of 1408 movie !! biggrin.gif
This post has been edited by BoNeS l CRuSHeR^: Oct 24 2020, 07:32 AM
#4fastAiR  Oct 24 2020, 07:36 AM -
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QUOTE(BoNeS l CRuSHeR^ @ Today, 07:28 AM)

y i know, this doesn't show who he is
he changed his name last month
am guessing he is noobfighter in new account maybe idk
he have the same signature quote as mine
another fan of 1408 movie !! biggrin.gif

Doubt it’s Dennis, he isn’t banned here or anything and already has an acc
#5fastAiR  Oct 24 2020, 07:55 AM -
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Well dual wf tow vee spam is very strong vs China, I'd say prop and dual WF in addition to migs.
He just had so many towvees and was x'ing so im not convinvced how effective dual af migs would be (espically as he will constantly take out the AF's with his powers, you can count on that)

You didnt get the chain gun upgrade btw which was a big mistake.

Im probably totally wrong here and perhaps it would be useless, but given the vees were empty I think you needed something meaty to fend those vees off, maybe 1 overlord for defence in your base flanked by some ecms and gatts.
Im not saying push out with the ovie because its slow and stupid, but using it in ur base to defend could have been effective it would surely munch empty vees as long as ecms helped protect it? Or even a a nuke canon maybe tucked in behind a bunker or something so you limit where the vees can go, once again thats defensive though.

Its not easy to win that, and not sure my suggestions are good

But yea he is a good player
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#6BoNeS l CRuSHeR^  Oct 24 2020, 17:32 PM -
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QUOTE(fastAiR @ Today, 10:55 AM)
Spoiler Well dual wf tow vee spam is very strong vs China, I'd say prop and dual WF in addition to migs.
He just had so many towvees and was x'ing so im not convinvced how effective dual af migs would be (espically as he will constantly take out the AF's with his powers, you can count on that)

You didnt get the chain gun upgrade btw which was a big mistake.

Im probably totally wrong here and perhaps it would be useless, but given the vees were empty I think you needed something meaty to fend those vees off, maybe 1 overlord for defence in your base flanked by some ecms and gatts.
Im not saying push out with the ovie because its slow and stupid, but using it in ur base to defend could have been effective it would surely munch empty vees as long as ecms helped protect it? Or even a a nuke canon maybe tucked in behind a bunker or something so you limit where the vees can go, once again thats defensive though.

Its not easy to win that, and not sure my suggestions are good

But yea he is a good player

thanks i figured someone will prefer the 2 WF its the better choice among this all
and i couldn't make chain gun upgrade cuz i only have 1 WF and that will delay my production big time
#7fastAiR  Oct 24 2020, 17:35 PM -
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QUOTE(BoNeS l CRuSHeR^ @ Today, 17:32 PM)

thanks i figured someone will prefer the 2 WF its the better choice among this all
and i couldn't make chain gun upgrade cuz i only have 1 WF and that will delay my production big time

What wins a 1 on 1, a Vee with tow missile or an upgraded gatt? Got to be the gatt right, if it has a drone of some sorts then maybe the vee wins as the gatt is stupid. But if the gatt wins in most cases then maybe its as simple as that, match or exceed the amount of vees with gatts.
Someone more ezxperienced should chip in as i'm probably chatting crap biggrin.gif

I am of the opinion though that USA dual wf towvee spam is one of the strongest strats vs vchina
#8CirezD  Oct 25 2020, 12:35 PM -
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The main reason you lost this is your early game. U gotta put pressure on the USA, make him defend, while u take the map behind it. if USAs eco is untouched like this all game, ofc you won't have a chance. An oil grab, with a sneaky gat so he can't deny both oils but has to defend rather, then get migs and a third supply, NEVER let USA take their third supply on this map as it's so easy to harass. He had all the garrison control as well, while u are China, you need to see when and from where he is coming. Total lack of map control due to 4 bunkers and instant napalm build, i don't like this at all. Also losing the first dozer basically limits ur map control because he knows that u can't expand without the risk of gettin hunted. At this stage, when USA is in full spam, only a lucky nuke cannon shot can save u really, and even then, he'll just send the next wave.
#9Madara  Oct 31 2020, 00:24 AM -
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QUOTE(CirezD @ Oct 25 2020, 12:35 PM)
The main reason you lost this is your early game. U gotta put pressure on the USA, make him defend, while u take the map behind it. if USAs eco is untouched like this all game, ofc you won't have a chance. An oil grab, with a sneaky gat so he can't deny both oils but has to defend rather, then get migs and a third supply, NEVER let USA take their third supply on this map as it's so easy to harass. He had all the garrison control as well, while u are China, you need to see when and from where he is coming. Total lack of map control due to 4 bunkers and instant napalm build, i don't like this at all. Also losing the first dozer basically limits ur map control because he knows that u can't expand without the risk of gettin hunted. At this stage, when USA is in full spam, only a lucky nuke cannon shot can save u really, and even then, he'll just send the next wave.




says the guy who loses 20-0 xD
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