CNC Zero Hour

The rematch!!!

The other game is here

This game is even better, alot of action thoughout. Great game .

My macro and micro isnt what its used to and i didnt get a radar which was very hard for me.

Well played in both games tini

Eficko

excellent game liked the general point useage very much

will probably review later

also a prety good game. Well played by both i think, lot lot accion.

Was an ok game with some nice touches, toxin should own nuke, why use scorps when maruaders are so much better when scrapped up Would have won if u had done that. You should have gone for flank tunnels straight off on both sides, then terror tech the wf which u did, drop some rpgs in the middle, which u also did but could have done it a little sooner, and attack with a couple of maurauders and a few rpgs down one flank and gg. You should have teched sooner and not used so many low tech units, and if u wanna win u need to abuse flanking buses more, u let him have 4 supplies and oils mid game. Very nice jarman/ambush use, kept u in the game a long time.
Nuke did good, nice helix use and migs, maybe try and sneak lotus in before u attack to take the cc. Better mixin needed, basically spammed overlords (without sublim ), probly needed a couple more ecms and an outpost, and why so late with sublim You bm spammed a bit early game which would have been owned by marauders, but luckily he didnt use them.
Seemed a bit like 1.02 game tbh and its just not played like that any more.

hmm just watched it again and basically agree with general, eficko was a bit slow, maybe get a few more tech terrors and marauders, they just own now even though they need a general point. you also should've played more offensive, you hardly killed any buildings and mostly killed his units in your base, try to get some tech terrors or quad rpg or w/e in his base, just dont give him the chance to get such a huge army . should of killed the right oil faster, and never let nuke keep mid supplies that long . maybe get some more black markets and busses, dont just suicide your rebels from the ambush when they arent needed to kill OL's anymore, maybe try to get 1 or 2 techs and fill them with rebels to own some hackers or something, when he doesnt see them its pretty much gg . jarmen in his base to kill the hackers would probably have worked, he just built a very good economy and you did nothing . jarmen/rebel ambush kept you alive, but it was clear that you wasnt going to win that anymore (well at one moment you had a few scorps, a bus, jarmen and 2 ols so i thought you'd win there but you lost them all ). very good micro with all units, hardly lost units unnecessarily, only micro mistake i saw is that you attacked 4 ol and a ecm with 4 scorps, they have NO chance and you lost 3 scorps, thats a waste .

tini did very good too, some nice bm spamming which kept the pressure on efickos base, good job getting some helixes pretty fast and migs once he teched up to make sure he wont sneak a all killing gamma bus in your base. lotus use couldve been a bit better, just try to capture the cc because the only problem you really had was with the rebel ambush. very nice to see a china player making hackers, most china players just make tanks and helixes but pretty much forget that they dont play unlimited money games anymore and lose the game simply because of their lack of money, which shouldnt happen . nice overlord spamming for the rest of the game, GET SUBLIMINAL FASTER , but the rest was pretty good, managed to keep as much overlords alive as possible. general points useage was very good too, the deadly artillery/nuke bomber combo killed quite a few buildings, only thing you forgot was his palace, the combo always should kill it but the hole was still at 40% or soemthing and you shouldve killed it imo . nice ecm bombs, missed mine bombs (maybe you didnt get it but they are a very nice addition to your other gen points, use them to counter the tunnel thingy (dam forgot the name , lvl 5 gla gen point lol ). good use of units, maybe mix a bit more like using fire tanks or nuke cannons.

this was a very nice game imho, was pretty entertaining because of the action, even though eficko didnt really have a realistic chance of winning this, and the micro was just excellent . looked a bit like a 1.02 replay indeed with things like scorpions but still a very nice watch, will put it up for rotw .

7.5/10 rounded up to 8

thx, grate review.

Subliminal fasterrr, so trrue, i forgotet (that what happens when u dont play lot )

Looks like a great replay, prob get some time tonight to watch it =P.

excellent replays..both in fact tbh both of u wer very gud even after not playing for a while. cant imagine how gud u used to b tini, i never see u anymore, did u abandon zh

thx for review, just a couple of things tho:

i sent a worker to both flanks at the start if u look, but the worker goin to the right flank got killed by a supply truck and then i also sent 4 rpg and a worker in a tech to right flank but he had built a warf there already and he killed them.

see that sentance u say "if u wanna win u need to ABUSE flanking buses more"!!! this is the reason people call toxin lame and give them a bad name!!!, im not a battlebus "abuser" i like to show/use a little bit of skill, and i would much prefer to lose a game with unit mixing than to win a game with battlebus spammage.....

thx again for the review

I havent played zh for nearly 7 months and any rts games for 6 months so im really rusty at the min, my macro and micro is absolutly awful , but i will be back soon

cool game tbh, aside from ultimate reese bus abuse style tactic i dont see how you could of won that game.