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Does BFME 1 Community want any changes !?

What is your opinion about an official new Bfme1 Patch?
16.67% (6)
No! Keep it how it is! We dont need any changes !
36.11% (13)
Yes ! Changes could be very cool !
30.56% (11)
Yes - only Little Changed which are not changing the balance of the Game
8.33% (3)
Do it & i am gone !
8.33% (3)
Yes ! If my opinion is going to be important and if Ill be able to bring some ideas by myself

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# 1Shanks May 15 2019, 23:05 PM
Please make sure to vote & if you like explain your reasons in the comments below

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# 2Anon` May 16 2019, 18:15 PM
I voted for mini changes because I think you can do something here and there, like make units come out mounted, fix some bugs if possible, bring in new colors or new maps etc. But e.g. adjusting LD cap, change parameters of heroes or stuff like that would probably kill the game experience (for me). Not sure about adding new heroes, could be nice, could be fail tongue.gif

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# 3suturbs May 16 2019, 18:23 PM
QUOTE(Anon` @ May 16 2019, 20:15 PM) *
...But e.g. adjusting LD cap, change parameters of heroes or stuff like that would probably kill the game experience...
I agree, especially this part...
Adding new hero? I am against it as well. New heros to BFME 1 would again kill the game experience and ways of playing things... But making bluewizard mode (elven & other heroes + elves faction) playable on the GameRanger/Network somehow.... Then maybe some new enthuisasm...

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# 4Johann Tilly May 16 2019, 19:36 PM
I agree with the things anon mentioned. Small things like that should be fixed and for example also
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The gimli improvements from 1.07
Make Gondor Soldiers faster and a bit stronger, same with Gondor Archers and increase speed of Towerguards.
What should be fixed:
an issue that caused a delay before the buildup of farms and lumbermills
an issue that caused a delay prior to the Heal spell
an issue that caused certain heroes to have a slight delay before certain powers
- Gondor Trebuchet splash radius is now 20 (from 25), 30 with Fire Stone upgrade (from 40)
an issue that caused units to stop before reaching their destination (the infamous movement bug)
- Soldiers of Rhn to deal proper damage when in porcupine/standard formation

- Soldier/Ranger Combo can now receive Banner Carrier upgrade
- Gandalf's Istari AcceptableAimDelta 20 (from 15) [prevent twitchy reaiming]
- Saruman fireball AcceptableAimDelta 20 (from 15) [prevent twitchy re-aiming]
- Warg cavalry acceleration start time 800 (from 1500) brake time 1500 (from 1000)
- Warg rider AcceptableAimDelta 15 (from 10) [prevent twitchy re-aiming]
a bug that caused Saruman's dominate effect to load slightly too late
Soldiers of Rhn horde speed increased to 40 (from 36)
- Gandalf's Istari AcceptableAimDelta 20 (from 15) [prevent twitchy reaiming]

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# 5gahvin May 16 2019, 19:44 PM
QUOTE(suturbs @ May 16 2019, 18:23 PM) *

But making bluewizard mode (elven & other heroes + elves faction) playable on the GameRanger/Network somehow.... Then maybe some new enthuisasm...


would definitely prefer being able to play blue wizard mod on gr! that has many different changes and "spice" that you guys are looking for. makes sense to try to play that if you're looking for something new.

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# 6MythvMight May 17 2019, 13:15 PM
The best change you get is to play 2v2 QM on all and every map draws

I have won 16-4 like this and pino 15-0 a while back

to pick Wold over is just stupid so I strongly reccomend we play all maps and only quit fol or fod mirros.

It will make great players if we do this

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# 7gahvin May 17 2019, 13:52 PM
QUOTE(MythvMight @ May 17 2019, 13:15 PM) *

The best change you get is to play 2v2 QM on all and every map draws

I have won 16-4 like this and pino 15-0 a while back

to pick Wold over is just stupid so I strongly reccomend we play all maps and only quit fol or fod mirros.

It will make great players if we do this


you need to find people willing to play with you for that
DeBruyne 3/11(eleven)

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# 8Earendil May 23 2019, 12:57 PM
voted for changes.

For myself it would be important to nerv the splash damage of Catapults. + Maybe reduce the Exp-Bonus a bit. Imo it should be much harder to rank units and heroes. And that should happen by gameplay and not by killing 1 tower with full LD.

Mass lame catas never made it a better game. And since GermViper isn't playing anymore noone should miss it. Also it's sad when you ahve to advise players to make catas in some situations to play it safe or win it.
-> For the people who might say:oh but then it's not balanced anymore (if it was ever balanced). -> Make archers more strong probably or change the leadership of the hereoes a bit. There are many ways to make it a better game.


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# 9Val` May 23 2019, 13:07 PM
Patching is a long, hard road, but its worth it


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# 10Anon` May 23 2019, 15:59 PM
I guess the poll and this tooic gives evidence for my statement that we have diverse oppinions here.

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# 11Pallando May 23 2019, 16:19 PM
Well, yeah. Honestly, would be strange if not. In official games, the developers just push out patches and the community usually goes with those changes. If asked, I'm sure you would get a million different opinions from the community, depending on the game of course. They can protest, and if enough people do that, it will reach the devs. But for BFME it's different because the game is already pretty much dead and the players are not open for new things (and anyone can pretty much play any game version if they want to).

The big question is what's more profitable... will enough players return to the game if things get changed? Maybe. But 5 changes won't be enough for that, probably. Or is it better for the game if things remain unchanged, and denying the game any chance of new content/strategies? Subsequently it would definitely die in the long term.

Personally I think that BFME is pretty much sucked out as it is right now, and nothing will motivate me to get back to it any time soon.

In any case, if a patch will be developed, it is going to have a long testing stage. As Val said, nothing would be pushed without proper preparations. First, the patch would be tested in a closed beta with only a few select players. Then, once it's reasonably balanced according to the testers, it would be released to the big group.

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# 12Anon` May 23 2019, 16:34 PM
Imo the question is rather what is more risky than what is (potentially) more profitable. In light of the voting i'd say that is a major patch

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# 13Shanks May 23 2019, 22:16 PM
I mean 50% of the Community is only playing their own games
Hosting 24/7 either 1vs1 Med Dunharrow
2vs2 Noobs
Or those FFA - Gamers - No second Castle no Stoneworker -

What will we lose?
After 22:00 Gmt+2 we see only 3 Rooms in BFME 1.

The major question is, can it be worse then it actually is right now?
I think with a new Patch, people will play to atleast give it a try cuz they will be curious.

I think at this point we can only win with a brand new patch!!!

Are you guys not tired of the same Strategies over and over again for those many years!?
I think some fresh changes could be spicy and put in some nice work !!

As a big BFME Fan and as Senior Commentator of Gamereplays.org & as a Content-Creater and Streamer of BFME Games

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# 14Apmn May 24 2019, 13:34 PM
Go for the changes tbh. Same shit for like 15 years is going on.

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# 15Felixanius May 24 2019, 14:18 PM
Important thing is also to make it very easy to install and switch back to old one. Plus I would prefer not too many changes but some can be nice, like giving sense to Gimli and reducing exp-ls and stuff. But those changes rly have to be discussed to not break the game.. Me as strategy specialist (Kappa) would be happy to support you and give opinions on the changes.


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# 16Dunedain` May 24 2019, 15:49 PM
We been playing same game over and over from 10 years+ now,
At least most active players.

Honestly I want changes, like adding new hero’s for start and making few changes on current hero’s like gimli axe , making Boromir more useful which won’t change the balance ( like giving Boromir horn at rank 3 and giving Boromir a special summon power at rank 10, giving eomer special summon power at rank 10, etc like those which won’t change balance.
Giving mordor a new hero and fixing bugs, adding new maps ( there are some good! Maps in pala/dwarf mod ) adding new colours etc


Adding 1 or 2 new units afterwards if the 1st patch is success.

I’m tired of playing same strategies, units hero’s, same Gameplay.. like pala and shanks said.
If bfme will be like this in future then I’ll switch to other game for sure.

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# 17suturbs May 25 2019, 16:26 PM
If people would love to make "deep changes", I strongly recommend them playing other new modern games instead, together with the people they met here on BFME community.

No need to make changes in game dynamics. It would kill game experience, and knowledge. Small changes would not hurt, though..

However, we still can play differnt modes on network, under not necessarily a new patch name.. If we are all bored, this would be really ok... For a possible such mode playable in the network/gameranger I might have suggestings later in advance..

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# 18maxsmart May 26 2019, 14:54 PM
QUOTE(Shanks @ May 23 2019, 22:16 PM) *

I mean 50% of the Community is only playing their own games
Hosting 24/7 either 1vs1 Med Dunharrow
2vs2 Noobs
Or those FFA - Gamers - No second Castle no Stoneworker -

What will we lose?
After 22:00 Gmt+2 we see only 3 Rooms in BFME 1.

The major question is, can it be worse then it actually is right now?
I think with a new Patch, people will play to atleast give it a try cuz they will be curious.

I think at this point we can only win with a brand new patch!!!

Are you guys not tired of the same Strategies over and over again for those many years!?
I think some fresh changes could be spicy and put in some nice work !!

As a big BFME Fan and as Senior Commentator of Gamereplays.org & as a Content-Creater and Streamer of BFME Games

-> You have my Bow Pal !

Do you think...
Really do you think, that have the right to change the game in this fucking deep way? Who are you? The changes that are speaking about are fully a new game, other ld, other heros, other pp rain, cloudbreaker...
We are goint to change the game to leave it according to de opinion to 2 or 3 guys. The orange changes, Dunedain changes, which changes, who select that tester guys? ...? Have nobody realized that everyone has his own opinion?!? For that reason, most of players agree to fix bugs... but you are not speaking about that. Could please explain me why a different (and absolutly subjetive balanced)new patch will bring new players? who has had that sort of iluminated idea?

I remember clearly what happened with the trash that did Thorongil and the split of the community, playing a game with more bugs than before, and now we want to split again with less players...
The stream im seeing today... well is pureshit, is something that for sure I'm not going to play. I have been from the beginning, played more than 1000 games in the old server and along all this years and I'm goint to leave it becosuse somebody is bored about same strategies... buy other game! or buy a book or look for a job.

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# 19Shanks May 26 2019, 15:24 PM
Calm Down Maxi.
And speak normal to me.

In the worst case szenario you could stay with 3-4 guys you playing FFA with in Patch 1.06 =P

Nothing changed nothing changes yet, that was my opinion no one said thats gonna be it.
That's just brainstorming.
We have a brain we should use it.

Instead beeing that negative and flame people for their opinions bring your own opinions about potential changes or just vote for no changes.

Like in everything else the majority gonna decide.


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# 20maxsmart May 26 2019, 15:54 PM
I'm speaking normal to you I am explaining my point and I have all the right to say why Im against this patch.
On the other hand when you say that I can play 1.06 to play ffa woth other 2 or 3 guys you are being very disrespectful with me for different argument that ill explain you:

I have the same right to play ffa or whatever I want that rest of community, and I don't blame them if I don't like the modes that they prefer. With that comment you are kidding people that like or enjoy that mode, not only me.
And that sort of condescending behaviour... are you looking down to me?

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