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# 1Platino Sep 28 2020, 11:23 AM
The administration of this seems completely absent. For example are ARs checked and added? The point system is completely wrong. In my opinion more than that of the old ClanWars.

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# 2trucky Sep 28 2020, 19:02 PM
when there is only 10 guys playing there is not much point. but u should call someone out if they are always not reporting so they can get bad rep. i'm just waiting for GR staff to announce a month-long tournament like clanwars so that league can be active. they already are too late for october but maybe november or december would be good time.

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# 3Platino Sep 29 2020, 20:16 PM
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when there is only 10 guys playing there is not much point. but u should call someone out if they are always not reporting so they can get bad rep. i'm just waiting for GR staff to announce a month-long tournament like clanwars so that league can be active. they already are too late for october but maybe november or december would be good time.


So nothing happens if someone dnt report

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# 4brabox Sep 30 2020, 07:30 AM
Yeah we could use some more people to do ARs. If anyone's interested, contact us here or through Discord.

QUOTE(Platino @ Sep 28 2020, 12:23 PM) *
The point system is completely wrong. In my opinion more than that of the old ClanWars.

What's wrong about it?

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# 5Platino Sep 30 2020, 14:17 PM


What's wrong about it?
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One of the problems is that there is no incentive to play. If I earn 20 points if I win and I lose 15 if I lose, I have no reason to play for points. The problem is that players of the same level win onhost and lose offhost so every 4 games each player earns 10 points. If a player wins 4 in a row against a weaker one, he gets 60. This is just one example. With this method there is no incentive to play against strong players but only against weaker players. There have been players who have been at the top of the leaderboard for 1 month and they haven't played in 20 days and no one can reach

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# 6Imperialist Sep 30 2020, 17:59 PM
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What's wrong about it?
One of the problems is that there is no incentive to play. If I earn 20 points if I win and I lose 15 if I lose, I have no reason to play for points. The problem is that players of the same level win onhost and lose offhost so every 4 games each player earns 10 points. If a player wins 4 in a row against a weaker one, he gets 60. This is just one example. With this method there is no incentive to play against strong players but only against weaker players. There have been players who have been at the top of the leaderboard for 1 month and they haven't played in 20 days and no one can reach

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# 7brabox Oct 1 2020, 08:47 AM
QUOTE(Platino @ Sep 30 2020, 15:17 PM) *

One of the problems is that there is no incentive to play. If I earn 20 points if I win and I lose 15 if I lose, I have no reason to play for points. The problem is that players of the same level win onhost and lose offhost so every 4 games each player earns 10 points. If a player wins 4 in a row against a weaker one, he gets 60. This is just one example. With this method there is no incentive to play against strong players but only against weaker players.
There have been players who have been at the top of the leaderboard for 1 month and they haven't played in 20 days and no one can reach

Sounds like you describe the permanent ladder. This ladder is indeed quite punishing, and you're right someone can be no. 1 for a long time without playing.

The most obvious solution is to use the monthly ladder instead -> https://rotwk-league.net/monthly-individual-ladder

Select "September 2020" to see the results of last month (there are no games in the current month as it's just started).

You can also see your player history for the monthly ladder:

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# 8Platino Oct 1 2020, 18:35 PM
Take for example Impi, he dnt play 1v1 maybe since 1 month i think.. hes still n1

I saw now he dnt win from: 2020/08/23 15:55:24

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Ty for ur work

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# 9Imperialist Oct 2 2020, 18:53 PM
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Take for example Impi, he dnt play 1v1 maybe since 1 month i think.. hes still n1

I saw now he dnt win from: 2020/08/23 15:55:24

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# 10Platino Oct 4 2020, 17:44 PM
lel...


1 point :')


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# 11Mr.SmOKing Oct 4 2020, 17:47 PM
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lel...
1 point :')

Maybe it's time for Samurai to stop feeding you.

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# 12Imperialist Oct 4 2020, 20:22 PM
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lel...
1 point :')

thats okay, winning weak opponent shouldnt give u many points

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# 13brabox Oct 5 2020, 07:00 AM
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# 14Platino Oct 5 2020, 12:38 PM
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thats okay, winning weak opponent shouldnt give u many points


Oh ye

And what about this??

1 ImperiaIis 1929 65 wins
2 (L)Mr.SmoK 1885 176 wins


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# 15Platino Oct 5 2020, 12:43 PM
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Imo it works bad, but maybe its only an opinion


I cant understand why, in this case, im not in better position than Maru

13 - 15 vs 15-6 no sense... and usually we both play vs same players

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# 16trucky Oct 5 2020, 19:13 PM
here is all ur games and maru's games this month:

Plat
W > L

maru > plat
plat > maru
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
sam > plat
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > maru
maru > plat
maru > plat
mayshadow > plat
plat > maru
plat > maru
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
luke > plat
plat > luke

15W 6L
11 games and 10 wins vs sam
7 games and 4 wins vs maru
3 games and 1 win vs other


Maru
maru > sam
maru > dominik
maru > sam
sam > maru
maru > sam
sam > maru
sam > maru
maru > sam
maru > sam
maru > sam
sam > maru
maru > sam
maru > sam
maru > plat
plat > maru
asba > maru
asba > maru
maru > asba
matty > maru
maru > matty (elf mirror wtf)
ety > maru
plat > maru
maru > plat
maru > plat
plat > maru
plat > maru
trucky > maru
trucky > maru
asba > maru
maru > asba

15W 15L
12 games and 8 wins vs sam
7 games and 3 wins vs plat
12 games and 4 wins vs other



plat has 4 win and 3 loss vs maru so it is as even as u can get with 7 games and i cannot see who is host. maru is playing more total games and vs more different guys than plat. maru's extra losses are vs megapros like matty, asba, and trucky and maru is getting some wins vs asba and matty. plat has a very good record vs samurai but only 1 win from guys who are not samurai or maru. maybe if plat win more vs other guys he would be rank 1 in the ladder. both maru and plat have 33% winrate vs other players.

i dont see the problem?

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# 17Platino Oct 6 2020, 23:03 PM
QUOTE(trucky @ Oct 5 2020, 19:13 PM) *

here is all ur games and maru's games this month:

Plat
W > L

maru > plat
plat > maru
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
sam > plat
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > maru
maru > plat
maru > plat
mayshadow > plat
plat > maru
plat > maru
plat > sam
plat > sam
plat > sam
luke > plat
plat > luke

15W 6L
11 games and 10 wins vs sam
7 games and 4 wins vs maru
3 games and 1 win vs other


Maru
maru > sam
maru > dominik
maru > sam
sam > maru
maru > sam
sam > maru
sam > maru
maru > sam
maru > sam
maru > sam
sam > maru
maru > sam
maru > sam
maru > plat
plat > maru
asba > maru
asba > maru
maru > asba
matty > maru
maru > matty (elf mirror wtf)
ety > maru
plat > maru
maru > plat
maru > plat
plat > maru
plat > maru
trucky > maru
trucky > maru
asba > maru
maru > asba

15W 15L
12 games and 8 wins vs sam
7 games and 3 wins vs plat
12 games and 4 wins vs other



plat has 4 win and 3 loss vs maru so it is as even as u can get with 7 games and i cannot see who is host. maru is playing more total games and vs more different guys than plat. maru's extra losses are vs megapros like matty, asba, and trucky and maru is getting some wins vs asba and matty. plat has a very good record vs samurai but only 1 win from guys who are not samurai or maru. maybe if plat win more vs other guys he would be rank 1 in the ladder. both maru and plat have 33% winrate vs other players.

i dont see the problem?



Ofc in this month i played much vs samurai but I am still convinced that the system is malfunctioning


HOw I said before:

1 ImperiaIis 1929 65 wins
2 (L)Mr.SmoK 1885 176 wins"

Perhaps this shows that when you lose, you lose too many points


Another example is that the last month me and Mayshadowhave played a lot and our points didn't increase that much because the win rate is around 50%. What's the point of playing against a player of the same level? Calculating that against the same level you most likely win onhost and lose offhost, the desire to play really goes away

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# 18Imperialist Oct 7 2020, 06:49 AM
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Ofc in this month i played much vs samurai but I am still convinced that the system is malfunctioning
HOw I said before:

1 ImperiaIis 1929 65 wins
2 (L)Mr.SmoK 1885 176 wins"

Perhaps this shows that when you lose, you lose too many points
Another example is that the last month me and Mayshadowhave played a lot and our points didn't increase that much because the win rate is around 50%. What's the point of playing against a player of the same level? Calculating that against the same level you most likely win onhost and lose offhost, the desire to play really goes away

Bro U've forgotten number of loses

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# 19Platino Oct 7 2020, 09:40 AM
QUOTE(Imperialist @ Oct 7 2020, 06:49 AM) *

Bro U've forgotten number of loses


Nah m8

I said that

"Perhaps this shows that when you lose, you lose too many points"

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# 20Imperialist Oct 7 2020, 10:43 AM
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Nah m8

I said that

"Perhaps this shows that when you lose, you lose too many points"

Comparing :
Imperialist 65 - 11
Smokk 177 - 90

65/(65+11) * 100 = 86% winrate
177/(177+90) * 100 = 66% winrate
Imo thats normal difference, but idk i reaaly dont care now

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